Official 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Author
Discussion

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
F1.com said:
FRIDAY, MAY 10 - FP1 & FP2 WEATHER
Conditions: Partly cloudy
Maximum temperature expected: 24 Celsius
Chance of rain: 0%

SATURDAY, MAY 11 - FP3 & QUALIFYING WEATHER
Conditions: Partly cloudy
Maximum temperature expected: 19 Celsius
Chance of rain: 0%

SUNDAY, MAY 12 - RACE WEATHER
Conditions: Partly cloudy
Maximum temperature expected: 19 Celsius
Chance of rain: 0%
Good cool weather for the engines.

Partial cloud each day, not so good for track temps for those teams that struggle to switch their tyres on.

Interestingly, Ferrari are maybe set to both benefit in extra power but lose out with tyres. Bets off then.

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
It'll be a crap race because Barcelona always is.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
F1GTRUeno said:
It'll be a crap race because Barcelona always is.
Want to expand on that? Why is it crap? Will the changes to this years cars affect how crap it is? What would you change?

Any small thing to open up the topic of crapness?

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
Munter said:
What would you change?
Move it to Zandvoort wink

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
Vaud said:
Move it to Zandvoort wink
You're not the least bit concerned that it wouldn't fit? biggrin

budgie smuggler

5,380 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
Munter said:
Want to expand on that? Why is it crap? Will the changes to this years cars affect how crap it is? What would you change?

Any small thing to open up the topic of crapness?
Let's face it, he's right, 9/10 times it is a boring race.

Looking forward to seeing who's made progress with the cars though.

freddytin

1,184 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
budgie smuggler said:
Let's face it, he's right, 9/10 times it is a boring race.

Looking forward to seeing who's made progress with the cars though.
Usually a little dull, but with Mercedes romping away, it's time for the rest to get a little more ambitious.

I can see local-ish lad C.L.C getting quite feisty come the weekend, especially considering his new toys and plenty of fans urging him on bounceshoutdriving

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
freddytin said:

I can see local-ish lad C.L.C
rotate

enjo

339 posts

138 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
Deesee said:
racing .
This took me way to long to figure out!

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.hamilto...

Quite interesting. Ferrari have moaned about tyre issues throughout, I hadn't realised it was a general issue for the teams this season.

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
enjo said:
Deesee said:
racing .
This took me way to long to figure out!
thumbup

thegreenhell

15,327 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
quotequote all
enjo said:
Deesee said:
racing .
This took me way to long to figure out!
Hereafter to be known as Racing Dot.

ajprice

27,472 posts

196 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
Mercedes have fitted Halfords blind spot mirrors to their mirrors hehe


TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
ajprice said:
Mercedes have fitted Halfords blind spot mirrors to their mirrors hehe

I assume this is just to better so cars alongside whilst wheel to wheel? And no doubt, carefully shaped to provide some subtle aero benefit.

Perhaps this is in preparation for the two Mercedes drivers to battle one another, in an attempt to reduce the likelihood of 'a mistake' being made smile

budgie smuggler

5,380 posts

159 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
Christ, the complexity of the merc's sidepods now eek

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
budgie smuggler said:
Christ, the complexity of the merc's sidepods now eek
I am in awe of the complexity and engineering/CFD that has enabled that - and equally hate that F1 has become this complex.

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
budgie smuggler said:
Christ, the complexity of the merc's sidepods now eek
The level of development is stunning really. If you watch their videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/MERCEDESAMGPETRONAS/v...

They explain the level of work and updates ahead of each race, and then after the race in the debrief video, they explain what worked, why etc.

They obviously don't reveal all the details as it's sensitive stuff, but it certainly gives you a sense of the scale of development and how many components will change between each revision.

These are not so much 'updates', they are effectively on their 4th car pretty much, since pre-season. They were on their 'second car' by the end of pre-season testing. It's actually very impressive that Ferrari keep up at all against such relentless development pace.

budgie smuggler

5,380 posts

159 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
Vaud said:
I am in awe of the complexity and engineering/CFD that has enabled that - and equally hate that F1 has become this complex.
Same, hugely impressive but I hate that losing one of those barely distinguishable aero trinkets in a minor knock can cause serious problems with the race pace.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
budgie smuggler said:
Same, hugely impressive but I hate that losing one of those barely distinguishable aero trinkets in a minor knock can cause serious problems with the race pace.
As someone once said (might have been Pat Symonds) - the problem with aero is you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Friday 10th May 2019
quotequote all
I understand people not liking the crazy detail and the subsequent fragility of modern F1 cars. But in the end, as the regulations tighten and rule out dramatic innovation, the teams have to forever seek improvements and innovation in the tiniest of areas.

On the plus side, at least we do still get to see innovation such as this, even if it's way beyond what anyone on the outside can truly understand or appreciate - unlike rather obvious innovations in past era's - looking at you fan car...