Rosberg to Ferrari in 2020?

Rosberg to Ferrari in 2020?

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Marcia

5,099 posts

137 months

Sunday 22nd September
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This is so funny rofl never happen, he's too scared he will get trounced by Lewis after cowardly retiring when he lucked into that WDC!

davidd

5,983 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Rosberg has proved his worth by beating arguably the best driver of this generation ( Lewis in case you were wondering ). Choosing when to stop is the action of a wise man not a coward.
He did what he wanted to do then stepped out making space for other drivers.

I did wonder if at some point he’d get into team management, I appreciate the comments earlier in the thread but something makes me think he might do it.

RickRolled

334 posts

124 months

Sunday 22nd September
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I'm sure hes tight with Merc outside of F1 anyway and doesn't need to be involved with Ferrari, F1 or not.

TheDeuce

3,462 posts

13 months

Sunday 22nd September
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davidd said:
Rosberg has proved his worth by beating arguably the best driver of this generation ( Lewis in case you were wondering ). Choosing when to stop is the action of a wise man not a coward.
He did what he wanted to do then stepped out making space for other drivers.

I did wonder if at some point he’d get into team management, I appreciate the comments earlier in the thread but something makes me think he might do it.
I too could see him in team management. He is fascinated by and seems to understand what makes people successful. He also analysed Lewis and calculated what he needed to do to beat him, which he obviously got right as he did! Sadly the effort to repeat that result was just way too much. But it does mean he's very good at understanding talent, and by extension I would expect good at spotting talent, and also neutralizing talent in other teams.

I think I might love to hate him if he wound up as a TP or some sort of high profile team advisor one day. A bit like cocky, smarmy Horner - a guy that somehow irritates me. The paddock would be a less colourful place if he were not there though.

Mr Tidy

9,566 posts

74 months

Tuesday 24th September
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TheDeuce said:
The paddock would be a less colourful place if he were not there though.
But then it seems to be a more colourful place now he isn't there! laugh

2nd rate driver who got lucky just once IMHO - and since he retired as soon as he got a WDC, maybe he is aware of his limitations!



TheDeuce

3,462 posts

13 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Mr Tidy said:
TheDeuce said:
The paddock would be a less colourful place if he were not there though.
But then it seems to be a more colourful place now he isn't there! laugh

2nd rate driver who got lucky just once IMHO - and since he retired as soon as he got a WDC, maybe he is aware of his limitations!
I was actually talking about Horner not being there! I can see how that bit could be read either way though.

And yes, Rosberg most definitely hit his limitation. He's said so several times since. I think luck did play it's part, but also to be fair a monumental discipline and mental effort to make up the 'not so lucky' points.



Edited by TheDeuce on Tuesday 24th September 06:40

gibbon

2,004 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Peoples comments of Rosberg regarding lucking into a WDC are laughable, they really show up some peoples limited grasp of the sport, that season (and the other three they raced together in) and what Rosberg achieved against one of the all time greats in the same machinery.

Either that or people dont understand what luck is in a sporting context or otherwise.

vaud

33,784 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th September
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gibbon said:
Peoples comments of Rosberg regarding lucking into a WDC are laughable, they really show up some peoples limited grasp of the sport, that season (and the other three they raced together in) and what Rosberg achieved against one of the all time greats in the same machinery.

Either that or people dont understand what luck is in a sporting context or otherwise.
Quite. It was a well deserved WDC in my view. Nearly took apart the team, such was the intensity of the competition.

OFORBES

233 posts

47 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Nico's world championship was well deserved. He beat Lewis (one of the all time greats) in the same car. Fair play, I respect him for that achievement.

But.......

My good god he annoys the hell out of me. The most awkward and uncomfortable person on the TV to watch. Makes my teeth itch. I dont really get his whole YouTube thing either. He comes from a relativly wealthy background, he lives in Monaco with his wife and children, he has made a lot of money in his own right in F1, why would you then be peddling a YT channel?

Perhaps its a hobby. I dont know. But every time I see him of Sky F1 I have to whizz through it or channel for a couple of minutes.

Europa1

9,097 posts

135 months

Tuesday 24th September
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OFORBES said:
Nico's world championship was well deserved. He beat Lewis (one of the all time greats) in the same car. Fair play, I respect him for that achievement.

But.......

My good god he annoys the hell out of me. The most awkward and uncomfortable person on the TV to watch. Makes my teeth itch. I dont really get his whole YouTube thing either. He comes from a relativly wealthy background, he lives in Monaco with his wife and children, he has made a lot of money in his own right in F1, why would you then be peddling a YT channel?

Perhaps its a hobby. I dont know. But every time I see him of Sky F1 I have to whizz through it or channel for a couple of minutes.
I know what you mean. In proper interviews he can be good, but as a paddock pundit, I find him really difficult to watch. I think it's something to do with the boundless enthusiasm. He is the Schmee of F1 pundits.

gibbon

2,004 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th September
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To add some meat to my point, with actual facts, over a four year period-

'As teammates, Hamilton and Rosberg won 54 of 78 races over four seasons. Hamilton had 32 victories, 55 podium finishes and qualified ahead of Rosberg 42 times. Rosberg had 22 victories, 50 podium finishes and qualified ahead of Hamilton 36 times. During this period, Hamilton won the Formula One World Championship title twice, and Rosberg won the title once.'


Rosberg was a terrible driver and simply got lucky right? Come on....over four years, in the same machinery against the best driver of a generation, and one of the best qualifiers ever it was 42 v 36.

Rosberg was / is a world class formula 1 driver with huge amounts of determination and resolve, and composure beyond most in the sport.

Edited by gibbon on Tuesday 24th September 10:30

vaud

33,784 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th September
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gibbon said:
To add some meat to my point, with actual facts, over a four year period-

'As teammates, Hamilton and Rosberg won 54 of 78 races over four seasons. Hamilton had 32 victories, 55 podium finishes and qualified ahead of Rosberg 42 times. Rosberg had 22 victories, 50 podium finishes and qualified ahead of Hamilton 36 times. During this period, Hamilton won the Formula One World Championship title twice, and Rosberg won the title once.'


Rosberg was a terrible driver and simply got lucky right? Come on....over four years, in the same machinery against the best driver of a generation, and one of the best qualifiers ever it was 42 v 36.
And since then Bottas, who is/was highly rated has been no-where near Hamilton overall.

gibbon

2,004 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th September
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vaud said:
And since then Bottas, who is/was highly rated has been no-where near Hamilton overall.
I personally think your point on Bottas relative to Rosberg is a valid one to make, but i dont think it is that clear, or really a totally fair comparison. Bottas has been run by the team under far more of a second driver remit than Rosberg ever was, now that would change should he be leading the WDC, however, he is not.

His results have been compromised and Hamilton's flattered on numerous occasions, i am not saying Hamilton is not consistently slightly quicker than Bottas, and i am not saying that Rosberg was not a more consistent equal to Hamilton than Bottas is, not at all, but the results I think are not entirely 'fair'.

Edited by gibbon on Tuesday 24th September 11:00

vaud

33,784 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th September
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gibbon said:
I personally think your point on Bottas relative to Rosberg is a valid one to make, but i dont think it is that clear, or really a totally fair comparison. Bottas has been run by the time under far more of a second driver remit than Rosberg ever was, now that would change should he be leading the WDC, however, he is not.

His results have been compromised and Hamilton's flattered on numerous occasions, i am not saying Hamilton is not consistently slightly quicker than Bottas, and i am not saying that Rosberg was not a more consistent equal to Hamilton than Bottas is, not at all, but the results I think are not entirely 'fair'.
A very good point and one I had not really considered. A deliberate strategy from Mercedes to not to have two #1s.

GOATever

1,544 posts

14 months

Tuesday 24th September
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People forget just how good Rosberg Jr. is. He was a real ‘professor’ in the lower formulae, and a very bright lad, regarding the engineering of the car. I’d like to see him come back and hand Hamilton’s arse to him ( again ). I also like the fact he’s quite clearly Keke’s son, and like his dad, isn’t scared to speak his mind.

Edited by GOATever on Tuesday 24th September 12:38

mcdk2

61 posts

179 months

Friday 8th November
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GOATever said:
People forget just how good Rosberg Jr. is. He was a real ‘professor’ in the lower formulae, and a very bright lad, regarding the engineering of the car. I’d like to see him come back and hand Hamilton’s arse to him ( again ). I also like the fact he’s quite clearly Keke’s son, and like his dad, isn’t scared to speak his mind.

Edited by GOATever on Tuesday 24th September 12:38
Be realistic now. Rosberg may come back as a manger or coach, but there is no way on this earth that he will be able to come back as a driver and beat Hamilton. For one, it would take him at least a season to get back up to speed. For two, beating Hamilton absolutely destroyed Rosberg. How would such a person ever have the same determination to beat one of the GOATs again, and surely you realise that Hamilton would raise his game to yet another level to prevent that from happening.

Hamilton would not sleep until Rosberg was obliterated.

kambites

57,491 posts

168 months

Friday 8th November
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gibbon said:
Peoples comments of Rosberg regarding lucking into a WDC are laughable, they really show up some peoples limited grasp of the sport, that season (and the other three they raced together in) and what Rosberg achieved against one of the all time greats in the same machinery.
I think it depends on how you look at it.

One could argue that no-one has ever won an F1 title without a certain amount of luck, it's an inherent part of the sport. Did he drive better than Hamilton that year? Possibly not but he was bloody close and by getting and staying that close for several seasons in a row he put himself in the position he needed to be in when the ever-changing balance of luck happened to end up marginally on his side of the garage at the end of a season.

IMO he deserved to win one world title not because he was better than Hamilton in any one season but because he was constantly close enough for the random elements which are inherent to F1 to make the difference in his favour over the course of the time they were team-mates.


I don't think Rosberg will ever come back as a driver, not because he doesn't deserve a place on the grid but because he doesn't appear to want one.

Exige77

3,960 posts

138 months

Friday 8th November
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vaud said:
super7 said:
Could see him being a team owner at some point though!
Do racers make good team owners? I think they are too self-centred. Maybe as a figure-head but not as an operational boss.

Prost tried with his own team. Maybe working better at Renault?
Helmut Marko is a strong advisor to RB but not operations
Adrian Newey was an OK racer, a better team principal.
Has Newey been promoted to team principle ?

vaud

33,784 posts

102 months

Friday 8th November
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Exige77 said:
Has Newey been promoted to team principle ?
vaud said:
Kraken said:
vaud said:
Do racers make good team owners? I think they are too self-centred. Maybe as a figure-head but not as an operational boss.

Adrian Newey was an OK racer, a better team principal.
Sure you don't mean Horner? Newey started racing after he became a designer and he's never been a team principal.
Sorry, yes. Horner. Doh.
Principal, and I corrected myself last month. wink

rdjohn

3,788 posts

142 months

Friday 8th November
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I think that the chances of Vettel moving on are only very slightly higher than zero.