The Official Japanese GP 2019 **Spoilers**
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Frimley111R said:
Supersam83 said:
Charles Leclerc has seem to found another level and is pulling Vettel along with him.
I tihnk it's more that Ferrari have found another level to take themselves above Merc. Vettel is just fortunate enough to be in one of their cars but unfortuante enough to have a faster team mate now.Ferrari has found something significant and now appears to have a clear car advantage. Hamilton did enough prior to this to almost sew up the title, but it’ll be a big ask for him to add any wins or poles in the remaining races this year.
paulguitar said:
Ferrari has found something significant and now appears to have a clear car advantage. Hamilton did enough prior to this to almost sew up the title, but it’ll be a big ask for him to add any wins or poles in the remaining races this year.
I feel Ferrari's performance lately has been inflated due to Mercedes cruising on lower power to secure the titles, and TR/RBR going easy on engines so they can turn up the wick this weekend. Should be interesting, but I'm not convinced that Ferrari will look as strong here.Andy S15 said:
paulguitar said:
Ferrari has found something significant and now appears to have a clear car advantage. Hamilton did enough prior to this to almost sew up the title, but it’ll be a big ask for him to add any wins or poles in the remaining races this year.
I feel Ferrari's performance lately has been inflated due to Mercedes cruising on lower power to secure the titles, and TR/RBR going easy on engines so they can turn up the wick this weekend. Should be interesting, but I'm not convinced that Ferrari will look as strong here.paulguitar said:
Andy S15 said:
paulguitar said:
Ferrari has found something significant and now appears to have a clear car advantage. Hamilton did enough prior to this to almost sew up the title, but it’ll be a big ask for him to add any wins or poles in the remaining races this year.
I feel Ferrari's performance lately has been inflated due to Mercedes cruising on lower power to secure the titles, and TR/RBR going easy on engines so they can turn up the wick this weekend. Should be interesting, but I'm not convinced that Ferrari will look as strong here.I'm also far from convinced there has been any evidence of Ferrari having a 'clear' car advantage. They have had an advantage on circuits that are good or at least better than average for their car. They did even better than expected on those circuits as they have got to grips with their aero - but nonetheless we still haven't seen how they will do on a circuit not as well suited to their car.
So far all I see is a very positive step towards being more competitive, and potentially they 'may' have the superior package. But we haven't seen enough of that package, on a mix of circuits offering various challenges to know for sure. Not sure this weekends GP will provide any clearer evidence either as a) the weather is likely to play a disruptive factor, and, b) it's another circuit that suites cars with a leaning towards high speed over grip.
Not taking anything away from Ferrari, they have made excellent progress. Just trying to be realistic about what we have really seen recently and how relevant it is to the overall remainder of the season - and their chances next season.
If I was in charge at Mercedes I would be diverting all my resource towards next years car. No point putting much effort into developing this years car now that the championship is all but in the bag.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
Nampahc Niloc said:
If I was in charge at Mercedes I would be diverting all my resource towards next years car. No point putting much effort into developing this years car now that the championship is all but in the bag.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
As the regs are fairly static for next year a good understanding of this years car will pay off in 2020 in theory... theory is a wonderful thing!I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
Nampahc Niloc said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Ferrari have already switched to 2020, they said that the last race was the last major update and was in effect 2020 elements being trialed?Could it be that Liberty have had a quiet word with Mercedes about reigning it in a bit?
Having won since 2014 and started with an absolute flyer this year it could have another boring year for F1 fans, much like the Redbull days with Vettel.
As everyone has pointed out it’s all but in the bag so Mercedes are coasting to keep things interesting for the sake of the sport.
It’s all a guess, it may have already been mentioned. I also don’t include the German GP in this theory!
Having won since 2014 and started with an absolute flyer this year it could have another boring year for F1 fans, much like the Redbull days with Vettel.
As everyone has pointed out it’s all but in the bag so Mercedes are coasting to keep things interesting for the sake of the sport.
It’s all a guess, it may have already been mentioned. I also don’t include the German GP in this theory!
Edited by Gtom on Thursday 10th October 14:09
Nampahc Niloc said:
If I was in charge at Mercedes I would be diverting all my resource towards next years car. No point putting much effort into developing this years car now that the championship is all but in the bag.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
Nope, on the money according to a Toto interview... as I posted in another thread I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them a long way ahead again at the start of next season because Ferrari have been putting all their effort into catching Mercedes up, while Mercedes are already focusing on next year.
Just a hypothesis. I may be way off.
Toto believes Mercedes changing more of their focus on the 2020 car and Ferrari pressing on with updates is part of the reason Merc have appeared to underperform post summer break...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-2020-f...
BlueMeganeII said:
Considering 2019 is all but tied up it’s not a bad direction for them, but shows they’re likely to be on fire from early 2020. I just hope it’s not their last ‘team’ year.
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