Lewis Hamilton Vs Michael Schumacher - Who Is Better?

Lewis Hamilton Vs Michael Schumacher - Who Is Better?

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AmoCS

Original Poster:

921 posts

165 months

VladD

7,270 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th October
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I'm better than Schumacher is.

Troubleatmill

7,983 posts

105 months

Thursday 10th October
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We will never know.


Car specs/rules change
Circuits change
Everything changes

Drivers used to be told to slide the car around the track.
We now have downforce.

F1 Drivers used to be able to practice daily

It is a dumb question.

We will never ever know

Anyone that says they do - is pumping out arse gravy.

The only true way to know is give both drivers an identical car - and drive on the same track in identical conditons.

And not just once. Lots of times - and different tracks, different conditions...


37chevy

3,047 posts

102 months

Thursday 10th October
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Impossible to compare. Both greats in their respective generation

Teddy Lop

1,725 posts

13 months

Thursday 10th October
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37chevy said:
Impossible to compare.

that much I'll grant you.

How do you compare micheal "team me" Schumacher with Lewis "fair play" Hamilton

Lewis "have that place back bottas, even though the team are instructing me otherwise" Hamilton seems the complete antithesis to how micheal "you're my bottom beach and nothing more than a component of the my success campaign" Schumacher operated, but maybe Lewis couldn't have flourished in schus time, and his success reflects today's prevailing attitudes. This is something I was pondering earlier, listening to jenson buttons BTG podcast, and pondering the way he (and others) were royally effed in the A by sir frank and others, simply because that was how business was done.

paulw123

769 posts

136 months

Thursday 10th October
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A better sportsman? Lewis all day long. A better driver? That’s open to debate.

slipstream 1985

6,622 posts

125 months

Friday 11th October
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Yep different eras.

I'd safely say paster maldonado would run rings round the entire 1950s best and greatest. different times.

REALIST123

12,010 posts

99 months

Friday 11th October
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FFS, not again.

37chevy

3,047 posts

102 months

Friday 11th October
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paulw123 said:
A better sportsman? Lewis all day long. A better driver? That’s open to debate.
that we can all agree with I think

HustleRussell

16,886 posts

106 months

Friday 11th October
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Schumacher’s record is tarnished by the way he went about it in my opinion.

I am not what you’d call a ‘fan’ of either driver but I am pretty much ready to hand it to Hamilton because he manages to exhibit all of the hallmarks of an all-time great in terms of driving skill despite appearing to be an actual nice guy and team player.

As for the ‘different eras’ argument- I think that either of these two drivers would’ve excelled equally in the others’ era if that is what they had trained and prepared for.

Kraken

1,170 posts

146 months

Friday 11th October
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All depends what better means. As JB said in an interview recently he's asked all the time who his best team mate was and the answer is totally different depending on what "best" means.

Anyway it's pointless comparing drivers from different generations and pretty pointless comparing them in the same generation in different cars as well.

SturdyHSV

6,526 posts

113 months

Friday 11th October
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On current form I'd have to give Hamilton the edge.

andrewcliffe

485 posts

170 months

Friday 11th October
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If it were possible to compare properly, it would be very close. I think Schumacher would just edge it.

ELUSIVEJIM

7,264 posts

97 months

Friday 11th October
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Senna biggrin

Mr Tidy

9,353 posts

73 months

Saturday 12th October
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Hamilton for me - he has always won without needing to put anyone in the barrier (Schumacher) or a gravel trap (Senna).

For me that is class driving (even if I'm not a fan of his hair-dos). laugh

micky g

1,513 posts

181 months

Saturday 12th October
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Senna biggrin
My thoughts exactly / Close thread,

Kraken

1,170 posts

146 months

Saturday 12th October
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Mr Tidy said:
Hamilton for me - he has always won without needing to put anyone in the barrier (Schumacher) or a gravel trap (Senna).

For me that is class driving (even if I'm not a fan of his hair-dos). laugh
Again you can't compare. Who know what he would do if he was up against someone like Prost or a car as good as the Williams. Maybe he would do the same maybe he wouldn't. Who knows what Schumacher would have done in the car Lewis has had. Comparisons are just a waste. Everyones achievements stand on their own in that moment of time.

37chevy

3,047 posts

102 months

Saturday 12th October
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Kraken said:
Again you can't compare. Who know what he would do if he was up against someone like Prost or a car as good as the Williams. Maybe he would do the same maybe he wouldn't. Who knows what Schumacher would have done in the car Lewis has had. Comparisons are just a waste. Everyones achievements stand on their own in that moment of time.
But people are allowed an opinion.....

...he went up against Alonso, one of the best drivers of this generation as a rookie and beat him...he also had 3 world champions as teammates with no team orders...something Schumacher didn’t

In terms of cars, Schumacher had dominant ones, with special tyres, subservient teammates and banned parts....and who knows what he would have done in a car as good as the Williams. Who knows what Lewis would have done in the cars that Schumacher had...with the teammates....I mean he’d have 2 more world titles from team orders alone ;-)

I do agree you can’t directly compare though.

Schumacher was the best of the last generation, Hamilton is the best of this generation, both have had dominant cars, Schumacher was dirty, Hamilton is relatively clean, Schumacher had a clear number 2, Hamilton hasn’t

exelero

882 posts

35 months

Saturday 12th October
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I don’t understand why people keep saying that Hamilton doesn’t have a number two. Even in Singapore Bottas was told to do a lap 3 seconds slower than he could’ve just to let him pass and not stuck behind Albon. Last year in Germany for example or Russia. Even if a lot of you say that Hamilton doesn’t have a number two, he does. He is the best of the last generation, but the young guns are coming for his crown next year. We all want to see a 3 way WCC battle involving Charles , Max and Lewis... well at least I do

sparta6

1,343 posts

46 months

Saturday 12th October
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exelero said:
I don’t understand why people keep saying that Hamilton doesn’t have a number two. Even in Singapore Bottas was told to do a lap 3 seconds slower than he could’ve just to let him pass and not stuck behind Albon. Last year in Germany for example or Russia. Even if a lot of you say that Hamilton doesn’t have a number two, he does. He is the best of the last generation, but the young guns are coming for his crown next year. We all want to see a 3 way WCC battle involving Charles , Max and Lewis... well at least I do
+1
Bottas has accepted his well paid position as unofficial Number 2.
Mercedes also keep him on short term contracts so that he does not forget hehe

But hey, well compensated and 2nd in the WDC, it could be worse for Bottas.