Ferrari: Enginegate
Discussion
C2Red said:
Just been reading the Autosport article this moring, which would confirm my thoughts on Aero not being the solution, to add, my own thoughts are that Ferrari are syphoning excess fuel ( when not required, i.e. braking but still able to draw the maximum amount permited by the FIA fuel flow limiter) and then storing in an accumulator or similar, to be delivered to the injectors/fuel rail at a time when more power is required, but the fuel flow limiter in the fuel tank wont allow this to occur, thus more power and greater acceleration occurs. Genius solution if thats what they've done.
K
Its also illegal as that was tried early in the hybrid era and specifically banned. K
Kraken said:
I thought the sensor measured the fuel flow at the injectors not at the point of exit from the tank?
5.10.3 All cars must be fitted with a single fuel flow sensor, wholly within the fuel tank, which has been manufactured by the FIA designated supplier to a specification determined by the FIA. This sensor may only be used as specified by the FIA. Furthermore, all fuel delivered to the power unit must pass through this homologated sensor, and must all be delivered to the combustion chambers by the fuel injectors described by article 5.10.2.
C2Red said:
Kraken said:
I thought the sensor measured the fuel flow at the injectors not at the point of exit from the tank?
5.10.3 All cars must be fitted with a single fuel flow sensor, wholly within the fuel tank, which has been manufactured by the FIA designated supplier to a specification determined by the FIA. This sensor may only be used as specified by the FIA. Furthermore, all fuel delivered to the power unit must pass through this homologated sensor, and must all be delivered to the combustion chambers by the fuel injectors described by article 5.10.2.Article 5.10.5 “any device, system or procedure the purpose and/or effect of which is to increase the flow rate or to store and recycle fuel after the measurement point is prohibited.”
Deesee said:
No confirmation anything has been found yet,
There still 0.6 up on red bull and 0.3 up on Merc down the straights in COTA, they were thought that they would suffer here, & put have put on lots of downforce to compensate for sector 3.
Lewis and Toto think they have lost powerThere still 0.6 up on red bull and 0.3 up on Merc down the straights in COTA, they were thought that they would suffer here, & put have put on lots of downforce to compensate for sector 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
rdjohn said:
Lewis and Toto think they have lost power
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
Wolff declined to suggest that the technical directive had led to the change in comparative performance in qualifying between Ferrari and rivals Mercedes and Red Bull.https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
rdjohn said:
Lewis and Toto think they have lost power
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
Thats going to cause someones head to explode...https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
rdjohn said:
Lewis and Toto think they have lost power
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
It's just a coincidence. The decision for the request for clarification and the Ferrari drop in power is not connected in any way, shape or form whatsoever. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-...
It's spooky I'll agree.
If it is right, then a simple ploy by RB that made depending on a decision following an objection rather risky.
OR: It could be Merc being mischievous.
Given Binotto's bullishness about welcoming any inspection of the engine i'd be inclined to look at older stories of Ferrari's interpretation of storage and use of electrical power.......if you have more power deployed at the start of a straight you'll be going faster by the end......
If the reduced performance is really down to the regulation clarification then what did they change? LeClerc had the spec 2 engine so his loss relative to Vettel was about what you would normally expect, were its not for the huge jump they made post starting with the Spec 3. It has to be something they can alter without needing to swap protected parts. Unless Vettel also had the Spec 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TarVSio8jqc
Makes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
Makes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
C2Red said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TarVSio8jqc
Makes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
only time will tell...should know more over the next couple of racesMakes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
C2Red said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TarVSio8jqc
Makes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
If true... I would have to agree. In fact it's out-right cheating if true. I wouldn't even class it as a clever or innovative work-around, just plain cheating to win in a very unsporting manner.Makes very interesting viewing, and if true; was completely and utterly illegal, not even close to a grey area...IMHO.
The risk of poor PR if it were proven still makes me think there is a good chance it's not true though. There are other factors which could explain their quali and race speed reduction.
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