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There's a short documentary on Tom Pryce on the BBC website. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00081yy/mav...
I've not seen it myself, but will.
ETA: and now have seen it. It was a good heads up. Well done, me.
Can I ask what you did, JSF?
I've not seen it myself, but will.
ETA: and now have seen it. It was a good heads up. Well done, me.
Can I ask what you did, JSF?
Edited by Derek Smith on Tuesday 22 October 15:01
Derek Smith said:
There's a short documentary on Tom Pryce on the BBC website. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00081yy/mav...
I've not seen it myself, but will.
Thanks - will watch it later I've not seen it myself, but will.
And thanks JSF for helping to make it!
sgtBerbatov said:
Going to watch this later.
I saw the Manic Street Preachers not so long ago and their drummer had a skin on his drumkit in Pryce's helmet style in tribute to him.
I've watched it now and will watch it again - it's very good. Tom Pryce was the first fatality I was aware of after getting into F1 during the 1976 season. I saw the Manic Street Preachers not so long ago and their drummer had a skin on his drumkit in Pryce's helmet style in tribute to him.
Sean Moore (MSP Drummer) has contributed to a couple of radio shows about Tom - the one from 2017 is on YouTube.
Tom Pryce was from my home town of Denbigh, North Wales. The local museum held an excellent exhibition to honour him last year.
https://www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk/news/16368...
Also attended the memorial for him at the Anglesey circuit in July. Very moving story.
https://www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk/news/16368...
Also attended the memorial for him at the Anglesey circuit in July. Very moving story.
Edited by Rh14n on Friday 25th October 00:55
jsf said:
I built the Shadow DN8 and ran it during the filming at Anglesey, helped the film crew get the shots they needed etc. That's me at the start with the car.
Blimey, that is a thing. Forgive me for being dm but when you say 'built' is that from scratch? A load of parts ? A rebuild of an existing car? Whichever it is, it's amazing. Any chance of a build diary 
Its an original real car used in 1977, i restored it in 2015 so it can be raced again in the FIA historic F1 championship.
That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
jsf said:
Its an original real car used in 1977, i restored it in 2015 so it can be raced again in the FIA historic F1 championship.
That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
Thanks for posting this JSF, lovely to watch. That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
jsf said:
Its an original real car used in 1977, i restored it in 2015 so it can be raced again in the FIA historic F1 championship.
That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
Thanks for posting that, it's fascinating, how on earth did you get into this?That involves taking the car back to its component parts, assessing and where required repairing the chassis tub, replacing components of the tub that have to be changed to meet current rules, for example the roll hoop originally is aluminium and now has to be steel, the seat belt mount points have to be moved for the HANS device belts and driver specific requirements.
You then have to asses every single component for condition and suitability, I'll remanufacture the majority of parts with new of the same design, as you cant buy these parts you have to reverse engineer them. Anything that was originally titanium I'll make from steel because titanium is far too on the edge to be safe for the mileage a historic F1 car does over a season.
Anything that is magnesium is remanufactured, to do that you have to scan the parts, make the casting patterns, cast the part then machine it.
Hopefully you get the idea, you can't trust the original parts to be safe under load, but it has to be built to the same design as original, bar some materials changes which tend to add a little weight but adds safety.
Once the car is built, the job is then to race prep it and engineer it at the events, then do the required maintenance and checks between events. The engine is rebuilt every 1000 miles, which is about half a season, so i have two engines for the car to rotate. Gearbox components get crack tested after every event and a full refresh every winter. I strip completely down and crack test every load bearing component every year, if the car takes a knock during a race meeting I'll strip anything that could potentially be damaged and crack test it, replacing all the fasteners.
It's a full time job to run one of these cars properly as they were only designed to be run for a few events, for example there were 6 Shadow DN8 for 1 season.
I've restored many F1 cars of this era and engineer them at the race meetings, it might be a nice idea to write something up that covers this one day.
paulwirral said:
My missus booked Ruthin castle for a weekend break , not really a break as we're less than an hour away , and we stumbled on his memorial in the town . She stood and read it and called me over , must be worth a visit as even she said it was moving !
There's a gofundme page now aiming to raise £50k to build a memorial statue for him in Ruthin. https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/...Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff