What would the 0-60 etc be of an F1 car?

What would the 0-60 etc be of an F1 car?

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Thankyou4calling

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7,132 posts

121 months

Friday 15th November
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And 0-100mph
Standing quarter

How would they compare to an Aventador or Veyron for instance.

And say on a track.

If Lewis Hamilton lapped in his Mercedes in day 1min 10 what would a comparable time be in a Golf R?

I know it’s random but I was just wondering.

Monkeylegend

16,858 posts

179 months

Friday 15th November
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2.0 to 2.4 ish

4.4 to 120 mph

8.8 for the 1/4 mile

According to a quick google.


Cornering speed and braking though is on a different level to the Veyrons of this world.

On a track a Veyron and the likes wouldn't see which way it went.

They are about 10 secs a lap quicker than an Indy car at the Circuit of Americas apparently.

Well apart from the Williams which is about 5 seconds faster smile

Edited by Monkeylegend on Friday 15th November 14:27


Edited by Monkeylegend on Friday 15th November 14:28

GetCarter

26,894 posts

227 months

Friday 15th November
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Thankyou4calling said:
And 0-100mph
Standing quarter

How would they compare to an Aventador or Veyron for instance.

And say on a track.

If Lewis Hamilton lapped in his Mercedes in day 1min 10 what would a comparable time be in a Golf R?

I know it’s random but I was just wondering.
Google is your friend. It's not the straights, it's the corners.

LimaDelta

4,126 posts

166 months

Friday 15th November
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I remember in the 90s when some magazine did a performance comparison round a track, with some Fiat thing, a Ferrari road car and their current F1 car. The Fiat was given something like a half lap head-start before the Ferrari set off, which was also given something like a half lap head-start before the F1 set off before beating them both. All a bit vague I know, but given this is PH I'm sure someone else will be along in a minute with a link to the exact article.

The point was, they are inconceivably fast, even when compared to some of the fastest road cars.

TheDeuce

3,743 posts

14 months

Friday 15th November
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Thankyou4calling said:
And 0-100mph
Standing quarter

How would they compare to an Aventador or Veyron for instance.

And say on a track.

If Lewis Hamilton lapped in his Mercedes in day 1min 10 what would a comparable time be in a Golf R?

I know it’s random but I was just wondering.
0-60 anyone with a driving license and a LOT of money can go out and buy something quicker. Although by 2021 there will be a few sub £100k EV's that will quite comfortably accelerate to 60 faster than an F1 car. Also probably 0-100.

As said above however, on circuit, which by default includes corners, nothing on the planet is going to compare to an F1 car. Nothing commercially available ever will, 'normal' humans wouldn't be able to cope with the forces.

Why do you ask? Do you have a Golf R and looking for F1 equivalent bragging rights? biggrin

LimaDelta

4,126 posts

166 months

Friday 15th November
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I've found the video, Fiat Bravo vs F550 vs F1.

linky

Aiminghigh123

285 posts

17 months

Friday 15th November
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F1 is all about 60-180mph bonkers acceleration. Obviously drag cars are even crazier for acceleration.

Cornering nothing can touch them.

FunkyNige

6,532 posts

223 months

Friday 15th November
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Here's a quick side by side video of F1 cars and 'normal' cars on a track day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cNqaPSHv0
We're not talking Veryons or anything like that, but there are a couple of 911s and Caterfields...

Krikkit

16,772 posts

129 months

Friday 15th November
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A 2014 version of road car vs race saloon vs F1. And the F1 cars are a lot faster now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RuUp5MT3Uc

TheDeuce

3,743 posts

14 months

Monkeylegend

16,858 posts

179 months

Friday 15th November
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LimaDelta said:
I've found the video, Fiat Bravo vs F550 vs F1.

linky
That F1 V8 cloud9

Gad-Westy

9,648 posts

161 months

Friday 15th November
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A bit of googling suggests that quickest hot hatch lap time around spa is 2m56s. That was a fk2 civic which I assume would be somewhat comparable to a golf r. Quickest thing that You’d vaguely describe as a roadcar is a mclaren Senna at 2m25s. Current f1 record is 1m41s. To put that in context I would estimate you could let a mcSenna get maybe as far as even Pouhon before you start a lap in your f1 car and you’d still catch it before the end of a lap.

If you find comparable laps for circuits that’s rely on higher downforce, silverstone or COTA for example the difference will be even more apparent. F1 cars are really, really fast but actually it’s more that purpose made track cars are on another level to road cars from the off, you don’t necessarily need f1 levels of horsepower and development to see that.

Gad-Westy

9,648 posts

161 months

Friday 15th November
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Monkeylegend said:
That F1 V8 cloud9
V10 no?

PSB1

2,003 posts

52 months

Friday 15th November
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'Google is your friend', 'a bit of googling' - hardly helpful though, if the OP actually wants to start a discussion with fellow enthusiasts, ffs?

Monkeylegend

16,858 posts

179 months

Friday 15th November
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Gad-Westy said:
Monkeylegend said:
That F1 V8 cloud9
V10 no?
Probably, its better than today's engines sound wise.

RobM77

33,365 posts

182 months

Friday 15th November
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As above, it's the braking and cornering that really distinguish an F1 car, or in fact any single seater. They're designed to lap a circuit fast, rather than be fast in a straight line, especially with regard to top speed, because you never get a chance to reach it.

In terms of that braking and cornering, a current F1 car can pull around 6g under braking and cornering, which compares with the Golf R the OP mentioned at around 1g (I suspect a tad lower). 1g means that if your head weighs 5kg, in a fast corner you have a force pulling your head sideways equivalent to lying down on your side without a pillow and your 5kg head being supported by your neck. 6g is like having 30kg on your head, or a long haul suitcase plus hand luggage. Imagine doing that in every braking zone and every corner for 1hr30min eek

How this translates into lap times is as follows:

Silverstone GP lap times

Golf R: I genuinely don't know, but I'd guess at somewhere in the low 2min40s.
My Lotus 2-Eleven was 2min27 in my hands, so that's roughly what most fast trackday specials will do.
McLaren Senna 2min09 (Chris Harris)
Moto GP: 1min58 (Marquez lap record)
Formula Renault 1:55 (210bhp, 500kg, mild downforce). I owned one of these for a few years, albeit reigned back for UK club racing.
Formula 1 lap record: 1:25.1

So basically the difference between a Golf R and a McLaren Senna is about 30 seconds per lap, and the difference between a McLaren Senna and an F1 car is 45 seconds.

GetCarter

26,894 posts

227 months

Friday 15th November
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PSB1 said:
'Google is your friend', 'a bit of googling' - hardly helpful though, if the OP actually wants to start a discussion with fellow enthusiasts, ffs?
As I mentioned, it's about the corners, not the straights, opening up the conversation to what is important in a lap. Google gives all the 0-60 0-100 info - which means almost nothing unless you're just drag racing.

HTH :0)

Gad-Westy

9,648 posts

161 months

Friday 15th November
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PSB1 said:
'Google is your friend', 'a bit of googling' - hardly helpful though, if the OP actually wants to start a discussion with fellow enthusiasts, ffs?
Eh? My ‘bit of googling’ was part of a long reply!

Monkeylegend

16,858 posts

179 months

Friday 15th November
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PSB1 said:
'Google is your friend', 'a bit of googling' - hardly helpful though, if the OP actually wants to start a discussion with fellow enthusiasts, ffs?
He's started a discussion and he is welcome to join in at any time.

NotNormal

2,147 posts

162 months

Friday 15th November
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TheDeuce said:
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As said above however, on circuit, which by default includes corners, nothing on the planet is going to compare to an F1 car....
Ahem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_919_Hybrid