What would the 0-60 etc be of an F1 car?

What would the 0-60 etc be of an F1 car?

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coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I suggest OP goes to a speed hillclimb to get an insight into how fast a single seater can go. The really fast stuff - Goulds, Raptors and so are so much faster than even the most exotic road car I've seen lots of supercars on hills and few look quick at all. There is really is no comparison - at ,my local hill, Harewood , a F458 or similar will struggle to hit much more than 90 on the top straight. Bike engined single seaters can pull 120, V8s pushing 140, or more ..

Or just look at lap records -no Bugatti would see which way a bike engined Jedi went - single seaters brake soo much later and grip so much more than any road car

Edited by coppice on Wednesday 27th November 15:29

TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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coppice said:
I suggest OP goes to a speed hillclimb to get an insight into how fast a single seater can go. The really fast stuff - Goulds, Raptors and so are so much faster than even the most exotic road car I've seen lost of supercars on hills and few look quick at all. There is really is no comparison - at ,my local hill, Harewood , a F458 or similar will struggle to hit much more tnan 90 on the top straight. Bike engined single seaters can pull 120, V8s pushing 140..

Or just look at lap records -no Bugatti would see which way a bike engined Jedi went - single seaters brake soo much later and grip so much more tnna any road car
Surely this is the best way to ensure the power and speed is fully appreciated? https://youtu.be/pwK07Y32Bzk

For anyone that isn't an official teams F1 driver/test driver, this is as close as you can possibly get I would have thought. And best of all? The V10!

Stan the Bat

8,912 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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coppice said:
I suggest OP goes to a speed hillclimb to get an insight into how fast a single seater can go. The really fast stuff - Goulds, Raptors and so are so much faster than even the most exotic road car I've seen lots of supercars on hills and few look quick at all. There is really is no comparison - at ,my local hill, Harewood , a F458 or similar will struggle to hit much more than 90 on the top straight. Bike engined single seaters can pull 120, V8s pushing 140, or more ..

Or just look at lap records -no Bugatti would see which way a bike engined Jedi went - single seaters brake soo much later and grip so much more than any road car

Edited by coppice on Wednesday 27th November 15:29
Hillclimbs you say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kufacVXlSc

coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Indeed - that is the video which (before the comments were removed ) some folk who don't get to leave their bedrooms very much claimed was faked ... If they got out a bit more and actually been to a few speed hill climb events they'd know differently. I went to my first in 1969 - and I'm still happily addicted !

Stan the Bat

8,912 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
So impressive!

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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A44RON said:
I reckon even a 2004 Toyota F1 car on that year's grooved Michelins would do the job in that scenario.
That's another interesting tangent to consider ...... would the fastest F1 car around the LeMans lap necessarily have to be the "best" championship winning car, or could a less-good car (e.g. the Toyota) be a better suited vehicle, simply because it had a recognised BHP advantage in that season??

Fascinating stuff wink

coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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A44RON said:
even a 2004 Toyota F1 car
It's funny how the live experience differs from the TV and stats one.Having watched F1 live since 1971 the maligned Toyota remains (with the Matra MS120 , Ferraris 312B & 640 , Ligier Renault JS27 and Larousse Lamborghini ) one of the most memorable F1 cars I have ever seen- or rather heard . From trackside the Toyota made the most extraordinary range of noises - from seismic rumbling on the overrun to a banshee scream as it accelerated . I'd forgive it being a second slow for that alone !

rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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TheDeuce said:
So impressive!
Here is another one on a 5-mile long hill, where you can’t just remember which corner follows the next, like a circuit, or have a co-driver call them for you like rallying.

Probably a 1300 Hyabussa Turbo so 200bhp

http://www.rallycross-photo.com/heuvelklim2/champi...


TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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rdjohn said:
TheDeuce said:
So impressive!
Here is another one on a 5-mile long hill, where you can’t just remember which corner follows the next, like a circuit, or have a co-driver call them for you like rallying.

Probably a 1300 Hyabussa Turbo so 200bhp

http://www.rallycross-photo.com/heuvelklim2/champi...
For me, not quite as electrifying as the first video smile I think a lot of that has to do with narrow and high sided walled track at the start of the other video though.

He seemed reluctant to exceed 9,500rpm. I had to google as it's a Radical and they're built down the road from me (and once upon a time I may have been in a small incident involving my old tuned MKII CRX and the MD's 911 on public roads..), and I see the car makes top power @ 10,500rpm. Any idea why he would be shifting short?