Loss of free to air coverage

Loss of free to air coverage

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Roo

11,440 posts

155 months

Sunday 17th November
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MitchT said:
Happy with the C4 highlights as it frees up my Sunday afternoon. The only annoying thing is when it's a race in the far Western hemisphere which is shown so late that I have to watch it online on Monday evening and try not to hear the result in the meantime. If NowTV did a whole race weekend for £5 I might consider paying for it, but £9.99 for one day is far too much and I prefer the C4 coverage anyway.
Record the highlights.

That way you can do away with the adverts.

TheDeuce

3,746 posts

14 months

Sunday 17th November
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thebigmacmoomin said:
Would rather watch highlights than a live race now, just want to see the best bits. Its just the adverts I hate that you don't get with the live races.
I would argue.. that the best bits are even better if you see them unfold live. Especially if you're online talking about the race (or, bit old fashioned but with humans in the same room in real life wink ) and then a shock event happens. Something about being there in that moment can be quite satisfying.

EDIT: Also the adverts kill sport. The biggest part of the current F1 fan base grew up with the sport on the BBC and that was how it was. You put the race on, you sat there for two hours of uninterrupted viewing. It's far easier to lose yourself in an event and really appreciate what you're watching if you're not constantly being asked if you need a new watch, mortgage or a more reliable brand of tampon.

Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 17th November 16:15

Pericoloso

41,266 posts

111 months

Sunday 17th November
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The highlights show could be 30 minutes long.

That's all that's needed.

cuprabob

8,173 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th November
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thebigmacmoomin said:
Would rather watch highlights than a live race now, just want to see the best bits. Its just the adverts I hate that you don't get with the live races.
I just record it and fast forward through the adverts.

Simes205

3,346 posts

176 months

Sunday 17th November
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Find a friend with a sky go account.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

22,748 posts

183 months

Sunday 17th November
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Kraken said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Still love F1, love the Sky coverage. Happy to pay to keep it live (you forget that for years there was little if any live F1 available).

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Maybe but that was nothing to with the current situation. Very little worldwide sport was live and besides the full races were often shown on delay or an unrestricted set of highlights was shown which is far from the case now.
Maybe. But, still give me live any day of the week. (And the cost is shirt buttons really)

Newscuttlepanel

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105 posts

82 months

Sunday 17th November
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It’s not the cost for me, even if I bought a full season of races on Now TV it wouldn’t break the bank, I think it’s more it was an easy habit to have when it was fta, now I’ve got to put a bit of effort and thought into watching I find I’m not too bothered. This race for example will be spent in the garage, servicing my motorbike with a few beers and the F1 on the Radio, pretty much my ideal Sunday evening.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

22,748 posts

183 months

Sunday 17th November
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Newscuttlepanel said:
This race for example will be spent in the garage, servicing my motorbike with a few beers and the F1 on the Radio, pretty much my ideal Sunday evening.
That creates such a great image! thumbup

TheDeuce

3,746 posts

14 months

Sunday 17th November
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Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile


Derek Smith

35,060 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th November
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TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Got to agree with you there. A bewildering race that was full of excitement. The editors are going to struggle to make it coherent.


Eric Mc

108,204 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November
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Derek Smith said:
TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Got to agree with you there. A bewildering race that was full of excitement. The editors are going to struggle to make it coherent.
Are you saying that the race was so full of highlights that those tasked with putting together a highlights package will struggle to put together a comprehensible set of highlights?

LosingGrip

5,321 posts

107 months

Sunday 17th November
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TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Couldn't agree more! Just watched my first race live since C4 haven't shown any live.

Loved it! Well and truly for my love for F1 back (even if I did have to watch it on my phone as my Sky box haven't turned up yet!).

Gary C

5,445 posts

127 months

Sunday 17th November
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Pericoloso said:
The highlights show could be 30 minutes long.

That's all that's needed.
Only if you just want to see crashes and overtakes.

F1 has always been as much about the tactics and hunting someone down lap after lap and highlights normally miss that.

Gary C

5,445 posts

127 months

Sunday 17th November
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LosingGrip said:
TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Couldn't agree more! Just watched my first race live since C4 haven't shown any live.

Loved it! Well and truly for my love for F1 back (even if I did have to watch it on my phone as my Sky box haven't turned up yet!).
Sky coverage is actually quite good and the series link means its so easy to catch the races (though I do have every race written on the calendar in the kitchen). The team apart from Croft a quite ok too.

HoHoHo

13,939 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th November
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Gary C said:
LosingGrip said:
TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Couldn't agree more! Just watched my first race live since C4 haven't shown any live.

Loved it! Well and truly for my love for F1 back (even if I did have to watch it on my phone as my Sky box haven't turned up yet!).
Sky coverage is actually quite good and the series link means its so easy to catch the races (though I do have every race written on the calendar in the kitchen). The team apart from Croft a quite ok too.
Croft can go, it would be no loss whatsoever.

He’s like an excitable 3 year old, often gets commentary wrong and spoils the race.

TheDeuce

3,746 posts

14 months

Sunday 17th November
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Eric Mc said:
Derek Smith said:
TheDeuce said:
Well... all I can say is that the race just run was a perfect example of one that really needed to be seen live. Unbelievable shock happenings in the second half. You'll see the same stuff on catch-up of course, but the way the story came together was definitely worth watching live smile
Got to agree with you there. A bewildering race that was full of excitement. The editors are going to struggle to make it coherent.
Are you saying that the race was so full of highlights that those tasked with putting together a highlights package will struggle to put together a comprehensible set of highlights?
Ha! That wasn't my original point... But yes, in this case if they bung that lot together it's going to look more like a round of musical chairs than a race smile

So many developing stories and at the end we finish with 3 teams on the podium, 2 which never expected to be there. Both Ferrari's out, one Merc out, the other now in P7... Also the other Red Bull ending P14.

In all seriousness, I think even as highlights seeing Vettel and Leclerc come together is obviously interesting. But watching the entire race, seeing that tension brewing and then seeing them find themselves with no one else to race with other than each other?? That was gold. The very same goes for watching the inevitable battle between Max and Lewis - cut too short in the end but the anticipation was arguably more of a drug than the outcome.

I think you do have to watch a race live to really get the most out of it. And that's F1 all over really.. The more you understand the politics and team targets the more you get out of the entire sport and the drama between races. F1: Dig deeper and you'll get more. It's in the detail, not the result. Today is proof of that, endless detail and an almost comedy result at the end!

Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 17th November 23:01

Krikkit

16,772 posts

129 months

Sunday 17th November
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5 mates and I started watching F1 together at uni, we watched every race live, all the way through to the current years. We used to make a special effort to attend a race every year, we did 10 on the trot, now we're going to BTCC instead. 10-20% of the price, 95% of the fun.

Since free to air is gone, even with people who have Sky, most of us can't afford to pay the extra to get the F1 channel. 2 of us watch most races live, the other 4 just watch the highlights if available on C4.


TheDeuce

3,746 posts

14 months

Sunday 17th November
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Krikkit said:
5 mates and I started watching F1 together at uni, we watched every race live, all the way through to the current years. We used to make a special effort to attend a race every year, we did 10 on the trot, now we're going to BTCC instead. 10-20% of the price, 95% of the fun.

Since free to air is gone, even with people who have Sky, most of us can't afford to pay the extra to get the F1 channel. 2 of us watch most races live, the other 4 just watch the highlights if available on C4.
That's quite interesting actually. You watched every race and went to 10 GP's on the trot and Sky still can't get you through the paywall? If they can get anyone through the paywall it should be folk such as the six of you...

Just goes to show the cost is too high. I really think that Sky need to re-asses their pricing both for their own good, our good as fans and also for the sake of the sport in the UK. It's saying something that such passionate fans actually have the base Sky package and STILL can't be convinced to pay the extra for live F1.

Maybe you should call/email Sky to explain the effect the pricing has had on you and your mates. The more feedback they get the better! Also, they're sky, so they will probably gift you a sub for bothering to give them the feedback. Sky have ALWAYS been retro-active like that. No value for money until they know you've noticed they're ripping you off smile

Cabinet Enforcer

408 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th November
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F1 is still Free to Air for the discerning German audience on RTL, and there is nothing stopping anyone pointing a dish a few degrees over from sky and watching along.

I have been doing this since sky first started taking races, and use 5live for commentary, on DAB the timing is close enough not to matter, though if it's online commentary then I usually need to pause the TV for a few seconds.

Apart from paying out for sky it's my only real option for live coverage as broadband in my area is pants.

paulw123

900 posts

138 months

Sunday 17th November
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Still love F1, love the Sky coverage. Happy to pay to keep it live (you forget that for years there was little if any live F1 available).

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This, I also enjoy the football and cricket etc so for the price of a meal and a couple of drinks out a month it’s fine.