Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

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Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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DaveTheRave87 said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
It's in the rules, something along the lines of: Any innovation that is not beneficial to the sport as a whole will be banned in the year after it was introduced.

Same happened to the f-duct.
The f-duct had no chance to trickle down to road cars and driving 1 handed through Eau Rouge was just plain silly.
I think it was operated with the left knee ?

And you want the wing working through Eau Rouge ?

You want to stall the rear wing on the straits.

TheDeuce

21,452 posts

66 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Just how much must DR be tired of Renault Power?? An entire promising F1 career plagued by a single manufacturers engine... irked

FourWheelDrift

88,483 posts

284 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Who are these commentators on Sky? I've never heard so much piss and wind. I know they can't sit in silence, but they're talking pure egg.
Other than the occasional Ted Kravitz or Johnny Herbert it's all been mostly the F1.TV commentary team today.

Mr Pointy

11,205 posts

159 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Teppic said:
Ferrari are seeking clarification from the FIA on DAS.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-answers...
Phase one of working out if they can/should copy it.. Makes sense.
Haven't the FIA sort of confirmed it's legal though by banning it for 2021? After all if it's not legal now they wouldn't need to implement a specific ban next year.

Although I do recognise there are two elements to ban: one is the in-out movement of the steering wheel (the control mechanism) & the other is the changing of toe-in (the controlled effect). I think it's only the tromboning that's been banned?

Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Who are these commentators on Sky? I've never heard so much piss and wind. I know they can't sit in silence, but they're talking pure egg.
It’s an FOM presentation, rather than a Sky presentation, also being carried live on F1TV. There’s a rolling team of commentators from both F1 and Sky, Jolyon Palmer has been doing most of this afternoon with various guests. Commentating for 8 hours a day isn’t easy, when there’s no race happening!

TheDeuce

21,452 posts

66 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
TheDeuce said:
Teppic said:
Ferrari are seeking clarification from the FIA on DAS.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-answers...
Phase one of working out if they can/should copy it.. Makes sense.
Haven't the FIA sort of confirmed it's legal though by banning it for 2021? After all if it's not legal now they wouldn't need to implement a specific ban next year.

Although I do recognise there are two elements to ban: one is the in-out movement of the steering wheel (the control mechanism) & the other is the changing of toe-in (the controlled effect). I think it's only the tromboning that's been banned?
Yes it's legal this year, and no apparent impetus to change that. The FIA probably don't like a steering wheel that slides back and fourth.. but fair is fair, this year the regs allow it.

Crucially, as you allude to, the toe adjustment itself is so far NOT outlawed by the 2021 regs. The dual axis steering is... That is all. Maybe that is one of the things Ferrari is seeking clarification on.


Teppic

7,344 posts

257 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Exige77 said:
DaveTheRave87 said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
It's in the rules, something along the lines of: Any innovation that is not beneficial to the sport as a whole will be banned in the year after it was introduced.

Same happened to the f-duct.
The f-duct had no chance to trickle down to road cars and driving 1 handed through Eau Rouge was just plain silly.
I think it was operated with the left knee ?

And you want the wing working through Eau Rouge ?

You want to stall the rear wing on the straits.
McLaren's version was operated with the left knee, but then the car was designed to have the system in the first place. The other teams who had to retro-fit it had to use either the left elbow to seal the hole or, in Ferrari's case, the back of the left hand.

Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Just how much must DR be tired of Renault Power?? An entire promising F1 career plagued by a single manufacturers engine... irked
He’s going to be hoping for SV to call it a day at the end of this season.
(Which, on the first showing of the red car this week, is looking more and more probable).

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Who are these commentators on Sky? I've never heard so much piss and wind. I know they can't sit in silence, but they're talking pure egg.
It’s an FOM presentation, rather than a Sky presentation, also being carried live on F1TV. There’s a rolling team of commentators from both F1 and Sky, Jolyon Palmer has been doing most of this afternoon with various guests. Commentating for 8 hours a day isn’t easy, when there’s no race happening!
Granted. But for goodness sake, some of their chat has been rubbish.

Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Granted. But for goodness sake, some of their chat has been rubbish.
It’s no worse than you’d get when there’s an hour-long safety car in a 24h race. I imagine most viewers have it on in the background rather than paying attention to every word.

It’s the first time they’ve even covered testing withTV cameras, and if it wasn’t for the presentation no-one would have known about the Mercedes steering innovation for another three weeks!

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Well true. And yes I have it on in the background. The trouble is, when I 'tune in' it's rubbish! hehe

TheDeuce

21,452 posts

66 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Granted. But for goodness sake, some of their chat has been rubbish.
It’s no worse than you’d get when there’s an hour-long safety car in a 24h race. I imagine most viewers have it on in the background rather than paying attention to every word.

It’s the first time they’ve even covered testing withTV cameras, and if it wasn’t for the presentation no-one would have known about the Mercedes steering innovation for another three weeks!
True. I've been decorating whilst listening, same as last year wink

It's a tough job and they're managing as well as can be expected. There is a lot of filler/waffle but as you say, if they weren't there every moment we would have missed a number of details already. For what it's worth, I have enjoyed the coverage overall - a good start to the season.

FourWheelDrift

88,483 posts

284 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Little and large doing the paddock walk right now hehe

ChocolateFrog

25,121 posts

173 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
TheDeuce said:
Just how much must DR be tired of Renault Power?? An entire promising F1 career plagued by a single manufacturers engine... irked
He’s going to be hoping for SV to call it a day at the end of this season.
(Which, on the first showing of the red car this week, is looking more and more probable).
I think DR's contract is up at the end of this year too. He'll be eyeing that Ferrari spot up no doubt.

I personally still wouldn't rule out a Hamilton switch to Ferrari assuming he wins his 7th this year. Slim chance but wouldn't be surprised at all.

ChocolateFrog

25,121 posts

173 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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FourWheelDrift said:
Little and large doing the paddock walk right now hehe
I couldn't tell if he was a midget or she was 6ft 6.

TheDeuce

21,452 posts

66 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
I think DR's contract is up at the end of this year too. He'll be eyeing that Ferrari spot up no doubt.

I personally still wouldn't rule out a Hamilton switch to Ferrari assuming he wins his 7th this year. Slim chance but wouldn't be surprised at all.
Either way a potential seat opens up for DR. I hope so, he's very good imo. In 2018 he had the measure of Max but the DNF's skewed the results hugely. He's not as insane as Max... But his precision and composure is impressive. He's also a sponsor/PR dream because everything he does/says does the social media rounds.


Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Have we discussed the 'pink Mercedes' on here yet?

TheDeuce

21,452 posts

66 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Little and large doing the paddock walk right now hehe
I couldn't tell if he was a midget or she was 6ft 6.
I can't be the only one wondering if the mechanics of that could work... scratchchinwhistle

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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I think he'd have to Jack it in.

DaveTheRave87

2,080 posts

89 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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In the 2006 Spanish Grand Prix, Felipe Massa set went round in 1:16.648 to set the fastest lap of the race. That was the last race before the chicane was put in place at the penultimate corner.

Current cars are going quicker than that but they'll have to get below 1:14.637 to beat Schumacher's fastest time from Qualifying that year.