Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

Formula 1 Pre-season Testing February 2020

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kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Whilst I don't subscribe to this viewpoint myself, I could understand neutrals wanting Ferrari to be competitive and believing Vettel is a barrier to that happening.

Supersam83

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606 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Ferrari seem to be doing some sandbagging with not having run the PU at full power yet.

I know it's probably wishful thinking but just imagine if this whole "we are behind Mercedes and Red Bull" is just Ferrari playing everyone and when they turn up the PU in Melbourne we see the real Ferrari pace.

I just want a competitive season at the top driving

cuprabob

14,606 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Supersam83 said:
Ferrari seem to be doing some sandbagging with not having run the PU at full power yet.

I know it's probably wishful thinking but just imagine if this whole "we are behind Mercedes and Red Bull" is just Ferrari playing everyone and when they turn up the PU in Melbourne we see the real Ferrari pace.

I just want a competitive season at the top driving
... and only to find out that both Mercedes and Red Bull were sandbagging too smile

AJB88

12,399 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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BBC "Stroll is fastest in the pink Mercedes" sniggers.

Supersam83

Original Poster:

606 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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cuprabob said:
... and only to find out that both Mercedes and Red Bull were sandbagging too smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Supersam83 said:
Ferrari seem to be doing some sandbagging with not having run the PU at full power yet.

I know it's probably wishful thinking but just imagine if this whole "we are behind Mercedes and Red Bull" is just Ferrari playing everyone and when they turn up the PU in Melbourne we see the real Ferrari pace.

I just want a competitive season at the top driving
It would be nice to think they've not shown their cards yet, but the problem area is low speed corner downforce and traction - both elements that power unit settings don't influence much (in fact you could say running PU's in a half baked manner flatters any traction issues because the rear end doesn't have the maximum level of torque being transmitted). They were left very embarrassed for 2 years on the trot after showing well in testing and having nothing left come Melbourne, so their change of tact would make sense, but it looks unlikely they've built a championship winning car ahead of the first race.

It's hard to say where they are; I think they're not as far behind as they're publicly stating, but I wouldn't expect a role reversal in Melbourne - they're likely to be behind Red Bull as well on single lap pace, and it'll be down to tyre wear in race conditions, and that hasn't been spoken about much in testing bar the DAS system that looks handy for keeping the fronts alive longer, helping prolong a stint.

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Max Verstappen; "Hey Dietrich watch this"

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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cuprabob said:
... and only to find out that both Mercedes and Red Bull were sandbagging too smile
yes

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Hmmm... I didn't enjoy the red bull dominance as much as I have ended up enjoying Mercedes dominance. I think because Mercedes have dominated for so long now it's stopped being boring and become undeniably impressive.
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) as opposed to the C Horner winning years smile

TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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garyhun said:
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) as opposed to the C Horner winning years smile
Agree. Mercedes have done it all with a degree of class and sportsmanship. Does tend to make each result count for a little more in my view.

cuprabob

14,606 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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garyhun said:
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) followed by the the C Horner whinng years smile
FTFY

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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cuprabob said:
garyhun said:
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) followed by the the C Horner whinng years smile
FTFY
Neigh lad!

NewUsername

925 posts

56 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Interesting....


geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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NewUsername said:
Interesting....

Apparently this is for a music video...

https://www.sportvideos.tv/mystery-solved-strange-...

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
garyhun said:
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) as opposed to the C Horner winning years smile
Agree. Mercedes have done it all with a degree of class and sportsmanship. Does tend to make each result count for a little more in my view.
I'll take Mercedes stilted false modesty over Christian Horner's smug face any day

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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HustleRussell said:
TheDeuce said:
garyhun said:
I think it’s also the way they have conducted themselves. Letting both drivers compete rather than the RB approach of having Seb as a clear No 1. And of course the joviality and honesty of Toto (and Niki) as opposed to the C Horner winning years smile
Agree. Mercedes have done it all with a degree of class and sportsmanship. Does tend to make each result count for a little more in my view.
I'll take Mercedes stilted false modesty over Christian Horner's smug face any day
Horner went down in my estimations when Verstappen won in Austria and he was being investigated. Horner, on TV when being interviewed, said that Mr.Red Bull has done a lot for F1 so it'd be a shame for the stewards of the Austrian GP to penalise Verstappen.

It was like saying Prince Andrew shouldn't be prosecuted over what he might have done, given that the Queen has given the American's a reason to go to London on Holiday.

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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2:20, Bottas.
Puncture or das failure? Seems to leave a chunk of something on the track and the left hand wheel seems awfully floppy, it's more than likely a puncture and it's knocked a bit of body work off, just seems to fight the steering first, then it goes and it maybe my eyes that see the whole assembly moving.

https://youtu.be/czEE8x2G7GQ

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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According to zac RacingPoint is now known around the paddock as copy point.
Was amusing hearing karen flailing about trying to think of a dig against mclaren after zac left the comm box.
Reminded us of spygate at mclaren. Totally different individuals from the distant past.
At least RP only have this year to shine as its difficult to copy a car for 2021 you wont see till 2021.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Fundoreen said:
According to zac RacingPoint is now known around the paddock as copy point.
Was amusing hearing karen flailing about trying to think of a dig against mclaren after zac left the comm box.
Reminded us of spygate at mclaren. Totally different individuals from the distant past.
At least RP only have this year to shine as its difficult to copy a car for 2021 you wont see till 2021.
Old proverb say "when copying someone else's homework, ensure you change more than just the colour of the ink on the paper".

smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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NFC 85 Vette said:
Old proverb say "when copying someone else's homework, ensure you change more than just the colour of the ink on the paper".

smile
My old Physics master at school had an interesting response to copying. Any pupils caught copying would have their marks apportioned between them. So if the plagiarised work was worth 6/10, and was copied by one person, then each person would be marked 3/10. If copied by 2 other people, each person would get 2/10. hehe

(Obviously not applicable here, but I thought I would mention it for amusement)