F1 cancelled this year?
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TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
I started hoarding in October 2019. I had a premonition.
This panic buying shortage reminded me of a neat bit of wisdom from Lister in Red Dwarf.All you need is three sheets per visit: one up, one down, the third sheet to polish.
That was in the 1990's
TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
I can get very emotional over toilet roll.
You have toilet roll? Where'd that come from???I've been on tea towels for a week.
A couple of months ago, I went through Which? reports with my eldest, a mature and sensible bloke who is generally 'careful' with his money, to help him decide what car to buy. There was one clear winner. Imagine my surprise to discover that he'd opted for a joint second placed Mini. He admits it was on emotion. He wanted something 'different', so bought a car that lots of other people have bought.
The advertising campaign for the rebodied Golf that was the new Beetle was clearly all emotion.
Target audiences would be precision engineered with all the data these companies have. They will have different adverts for different locations. One magazine spread will differ from another. I know a bit about this targeting on data, at least enough to know I don't know much. But it's good.
Advertising has never been so precise. In email marketing, the Subject Line of the email will have been tested many times and there will be specific ones for specfic segregated marketing lists. Not only that, some will send one SL early in the week but a diffeent one on a Friday.
They are out to get you by influencing your opinions. Irritatingly, they are very successful.
I write on the matter. It was my job eons ago. I've had an interest in graphic adverts all my working life. Yet I'm just as gullible as everyone else. There will be a marketing list just for those like me.
It's a fascinating skill; art really. The things I did when I first started work are now like the Writght Brothers' airplane compared to a Tornado.
There is no defence. You are being targeted. You are being hit.
I still think a lot of the races can be run later in the year. Providing we get an all clear on the virus.
Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Fundoreen said:
I still think a lot of the races can be run later in the year. Providing we get an all clear on the virus.
Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Nope there will be no racing this year. Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Gazzab said:
Fundoreen said:
I still think a lot of the races can be run later in the year. Providing we get an all clear on the virus.
Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Nope there will be no racing this year. Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
You just need to look at the numbers....we are in lock down now, we won’t suddenly see everyone having had it and/or a vaccine applied. It won’t be possible to release us all back into normal life for many many months as this will just mean another sharp uplift in cases.
There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
Fundoreen said:
I still think a lot of the races can be run later in the year. Providing we get an all clear on the virus.
Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Those are all sound reasons why racing could and should return late in the year. Sadly there are also lots of other also sound reasons that I really don't think it will. Mostly economic reasons, also logistical problems - such as needing to know months in advance for shipping etc.Its not like everyone had their ideal date is it? I bet some of them would gladly run later in the year and there is no reason the race dates cant run on into next year.
People starved of sport will mean bumper viewing figures over the winter.
Obviously you hope for the best and it can all work.
Will be very exciting for the teams as well as they would have been sat around doing nothing.
Unless there is widespread belief that enough races could run to equal a championship, it would tempting for all involved to call quits this year in plenty of time to focus on when and how they can get the sport back on its feet next year.
TheDeuce said:
Those are all sound reasons why racing could and should return late in the year. Sadly there are also lots of other also sound reasons that I really don't think it will. Mostly economic reasons, also logistical problems - such as needing to know months in advance for shipping etc.
Unless there is widespread belief that enough races could run to equal a championship, it would tempting for all involved to call quits this year in plenty of time to focus on when and how they can get the sport back on its feet next year.
How about a non-championshiop season with relaxed rules where the teams could try anything?...would be fascinating to see what ideas come out. I am doubtful of any season but would be very happy to be completely wrong.Unless there is widespread belief that enough races could run to equal a championship, it would tempting for all involved to call quits this year in plenty of time to focus on when and how they can get the sport back on its feet next year.
Petrus1983 said:
Just an idea. If they put a total development freeze in place right now, cancelled the season in total, and everyone turned up in Australia 2021 with this years car - surely that could save the teams a fortune?
It's a nice idea, but how would you police that? Store all current cars in Parc Ferme conditions in a warehouse somewhere? The teams would still continue to develop upgrades though and the cars would be pretty much rebuilt with upgrades the moment the teams got them back for the first race.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Petrus1983 said:
Just an idea. If they put a total development freeze in place right now, cancelled the season in total, and everyone turned up in Australia 2021 with this years car - surely that could save the teams a fortune?
It's a nice idea, but how would you police that? Store all current cars in Parc Ferme conditions in a warehouse somewhere? The teams would still continue to develop upgrades though and the cars would be pretty much rebuilt with upgrades the moment the teams got them back for the first race.
Gazzab said:
You just need to look at the numbers....we are in lock down now, we won’t suddenly see everyone having had it and/or a vaccine applied. It won’t be possible to release us all back into normal life for many many months as this will just mean another sharp uplift in cases.
There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
A Billionaire's circus no less.There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
A 1,000 people per team to run a couple of cars around in circles is not entirely relevant in the oncoming recession.
If F1 can become more compact and attract true independent teams with 100 staff it might just have a valid argument to survive.
sparta6 said:
Gazzab said:
You just need to look at the numbers....we are in lock down now, we won’t suddenly see everyone having had it and/or a vaccine applied. It won’t be possible to release us all back into normal life for many many months as this will just mean another sharp uplift in cases.
There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
A Billionaire's circus no less.There is no way a global circus sport will be allowed to restart until the virus is under control or eradicated. That will take a long time.
A 1,000 people per team to run a couple of cars around in circles is not entirely relevant in the oncoming recession.
If F1 can become more compact and attract true independent teams with 100 staff it might just have a valid argument to survive.
It would be a huge blow to several economies for it to disappear. Which is what you’re apparently suggesting.
Similarly, ‘to run a couple of cars around in circles’ misses the point too.
REALIST123 said:
Similarly, ‘to run a couple of cars around in circles’ misses the point too.
You can boil down any sport to those terms if you try hard enough. Football? A bunch of guys kicking an air-filled bladder around a field.
Golf? Some people hitting balls with sticks.
Snooker? A couple of people bouncing balls around a table.
Table tennis? Likewise
Any sport can be shown to be pointless. And yet it doesn't alter the fact that sport has been immensely important to the human race for centuries, and will doubtless continue to be so.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
You can boil down any sport to those terms if you try hard enough.
Football? A bunch of guys kicking an air-filled bladder around a field.
Golf? Some people hitting balls with sticks.
Snooker? A couple of people bouncing balls around a table.
Table tennis? Likewise
Any sport can be shown to be pointless. And yet it doesn't alter the fact that sport has been immensely important to the human race for centuries, and will doubtless continue to be so.
It comes down to relate-ability.Football? A bunch of guys kicking an air-filled bladder around a field.
Golf? Some people hitting balls with sticks.
Snooker? A couple of people bouncing balls around a table.
Table tennis? Likewise
Any sport can be shown to be pointless. And yet it doesn't alter the fact that sport has been immensely important to the human race for centuries, and will doubtless continue to be so.
90% of school boys kick a ball with football permeating right through society, and finally upto the Premiere League, Series A, etc etc.
No other sport has such mass connectivity or mass community.
Football is contemporary religion.
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