F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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V8 Stang

4,054 posts

141 months

Sunday 24th May
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MiniMan64 said:
Why are the double headers being planned as a week apart? Can they not be run during the week? Or across a weekend?

Is it a driver fitness thing?
So you get 2 separate events.

Not many people would be hardcore enough to watch 2 GP's over a weekend, or time off in the week to watch.

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Sunday 24th May
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V8 Stang said:
MiniMan64 said:
Why are the double headers being planned as a week apart? Can they not be run during the week? Or across a weekend?

Is it a driver fitness thing?
So you get 2 separate events.

Not many people would be hardcore enough to watch 2 GP's over a weekend, or time off in the week to watch.
Also to allow the teams a reasonable period of time to address car issues in between race I would think. If Ferrari discover a major aero flaw on the first GP it's going to be a bit feeble them entering in to another race the next day with the exact same problem - could lead to a few foregone conclusions for the viewers and the championship.

Spreads the season out nicely for us too hopefully..

LaurasOtherHalf

18,153 posts

154 months

Sunday 24th May
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Derek Smith said:
When I was in charge of driver training in my force, I arranged for the late Peter Gethin to take my guys out for a ride on public roads in a 4x4 Sierra. It was quite like that film, except for two important provisos: we didn't go quite that fast and it was much more terrifying. I mean, really scary. I've been out with Phil Keen in a Caterham 7 around the back ways of Farnborough. That was fast. That was fun. That put up my blood pressure. That did not make me think I was going to die.

I don't want to be controversial, but it seems F1 drivers, even ex, can really handle a car. But boy! they are dangerous.

We overtook into a closing gap when a tanker was coming towards us. I thought we were going to hit it and grabbed the FM handle to keep any glass out of my eyes. I seemed a good idea at the time. Heaven knows what the poor guy we overtook thought.

We went over a rise, on a gentle left bend, blind to any oncoming, with a lot of right lock. We went 'light', but Gethin had taken this into account and it went smoothly.

We stopped at a tea stop and the table was ever so quiet. Gethin was obviously pleased with himself, for the rest of us we were looking for somewhere to be sick. The front disc pads were spread all down the sides of the car. Some was embedded on the return under the wheelarch. It's one of those things that you are pleased to have done, but wonder why you did it.
Good tale Derek, to keep it innocuous one of my close relatives works very high up for a former WRC driver, he's often told how he's come close losing control of his bodily functions whilst on the road with him.

Same as jsf, I save mine for the track nowadays but I find it can often be passenger dependant. I can do the 'ring in around 8 mins flat but I think I'm very rarely inflicted with an ill passenger. I've followed the Jackie Stewart style of driving for as long as I can remember, I went through a couple of periods trying Senna's cornering technique but it never felt natural to me.

Derek Smith

37,755 posts

206 months

Monday 25th May
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Good tale Derek, to keep it innocuous one of my close relatives works very high up for a former WRC driver, he's often told how he's come close losing control of his bodily functions whilst on the road with him.

Same as jsf, I save mine for the track nowadays but I find it can often be passenger dependant. I can do the 'ring in around 8 mins flat but I think I'm very rarely inflicted with an ill passenger. I've followed the Jackie Stewart style of driving for as long as I can remember, I went through a couple of periods trying Senna's cornering technique but it never felt natural to me.
8 mins. Is there any queue for your spare seats? Impressive.

I'm normally ok if I've confidence in the driver. I was often radio operator on a response vehicle, this through the City of London. Once, I went into the northbound Blackwall Tunnel at speed in an S1 Rover. We were in pursuit of a stolen car, only an Allegro, but a 1500 and driven by a nutter. We'd stayed some way behind on the approach, so as not to spook him, but once the drop to the tunnel proper started, we closed the gap. The Allegro lost the back end on the first, sharper, corner. Bits fell off. My driver said, so laconically that he must have practiced in front of the mirror for days, 'Let's encourage him.'

Before the next corner, which was a bit gentler, he closed right up and gave him, he said, a nudge. The poor Allegro driver was braking for the corner.

Once through it, with some kerb marks on his tyres, he slowed, almost to a crawl. Once out of the tunnel, he pulled over into the slip and stopped by two PCs. We waited why he got out of the car. He'd wet himself, and steam was drifting up. He had the nerve to stick two fingers up to us, which only made it better. That was the fastest, subjectively, that I've ever been in a car. Blues reflecting from the wall, tyre noise, and bits of debris. What more could you want?

Now back to F1. Whenever.

thegreenhell

7,673 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Maybe we will get a British GP this year afterall, if this story is correct.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/boris-johnson-p...

ArnageWRC

1,168 posts

117 months

Tuesday 26th May
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I hope it's not an exemption just for F1......

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Tuesday 26th May
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ArnageWRC said:
I hope it's not an exemption just for F1......
If Boris wants it, I would guess it's because he has a level of faith that F1 will 'get it right' and form something of a template for all other revenue generating sports series.

I doubt that he just wants F1. He'll want ALL major commercial sport to resume. Obviously one sport has to dip it's toe in to the water first... frankly F1 is a good choice as it's world renowned at high speed and effective problem solving.

ukaskew

6,363 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th May
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TheDeuce said:
If Boris wants it, I would guess it's because he has a level of faith that F1 will 'get it right' and form something of a template for all other revenue generating sports series.

I doubt that he just wants F1. He'll want ALL major commercial sport to resume. Obviously one sport has to dip it's toe in to the water first... frankly F1 is a good choice as it's world renowned at high speed and effective problem solving.
Yep, F1 has been incredibly proactive and actually pretty positive throughout this. Always looking for solutions, they seem to have come up with a fairly comprehensive and watertight plan as to how they can hold a double header at Silverstone. A bonus is that they won't get people 'standing outside the stadium' during the event (a few might look for a way in, but nothing like we're likely to see with football). For a bit of icing on the cake a significant number of staff spent their spring designing and building equipment for the NHS.

The road back certainly seems to have been handled better than Premiership football so far, for example.

jsf

19,273 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Silverstone classic officially cancelled.

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Tuesday 26th May
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jsf said:
Silverstone classic officially cancelled.
Predictable but sad.

I guess the same fate for any motor sport/event unless it can be paid for exclusively via TV revenue?


Eric Mc

112,480 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th May
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McLaren axing 25% of their staff.

Bad times are just around the corner.

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Eric Mc said:
McLaren axing 25% of their staff.

Bad times are just around the corner.
We knew that was coming for most teams. Albeit, the process being sped up by harsher budget caps than thought and the huge revenue loss this year..

HTP99

17,141 posts

98 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Eric Mc said:
McLaren axing 25% of their staff.

Bad times are just around the corner.
Race team or road cars?

Eric Mc

112,480 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th May
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HTP99 said:
Eric Mc said:
McLaren axing 25% of their staff.

Bad times are just around the corner.
Race team or road cars?
Across the board, according to the news.

Eric Mc

112,480 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th May
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TheDeuce said:
We knew that was coming for most teams. Albeit, the process being sped up by harsher budget caps than thought and the huge revenue loss this year..
Doesn't make it any better or positive - if what you claim is true.

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Eric Mc said:
Doesn't make it any better or positive - if what you claim is true.
Certainly not. Although the budget caps may prove good for the sport.

As for what I claim.. no shortage of team principals who have said budget caps will equal staff cuts. Seems fairly straight cut to me.

I do feel sorry for anyone our of a job right now as getting another job is going to be extremely tough for a good while. At least a job a person might actually want to do.

ralphrj

2,998 posts

149 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Eric Mc said:
TheDeuce said:
We knew that was coming for most teams. Albeit, the process being sped up by harsher budget caps than thought and the huge revenue loss this year..
Doesn't make it any better or positive - if what you claim is true.
The budget cap is not as low as McLaren wanted it to be.

Eric Mc

112,480 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th May
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I don't think it's the budget cap that is causing 25% redundancies in the company right now.

TheDeuce

7,293 posts

24 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Eric Mc said:
I don't think it's the budget cap that is causing 25% redundancies in the company right now.
As I said, me either. It would have been but other events have overtaken it.

thegreenhell

7,673 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Apparently they are cutting 1200 staff, of which only 70 wil be from the F1 side.