The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*

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kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Ferrari's reserve drivers with F1 experience are listed as Giovinazzi and Pascal Wehrlein. So if Seb walks early, would be one of those two taking the seat for the rest of this year.

Kubica is reserve driver for Alfa.

Mercedes, McLaren and Racing Point all have the same two reserve drivers listed: Vandoorne and Gutierrez. So if those teams have some kind of outbreak that takes out their drivers, someone's gonna need to go shopping hehe

vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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kiseca said:
Ferrari's reserve drivers with F1 experience are listed as Giovinazzi and Pascal Wehrlein. So if Seb walks early, would be one of those two taking the seat for the rest of this year.

Kubica is reserve driver for Alfa.

Mercedes, McLaren and Racing Point all have the same two reserve drivers listed: Vandoorne and Gutierrez. So if those teams have some kind of outbreak that takes out their drivers, someone's gonna need to go shopping hehe
FIA can, I think do pretty much anything in extremis; e.g. waive super licence points requirements

JVCraddock

26 posts

48 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Is Ocon something special? There has been a lot of hype surrounding him but has he had f1 results to back it up?

thegreenhell

15,327 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JVCraddock said:
Is Ocon something special? There has been a lot of hype surrounding him but has he had f1 results to back it up?
He's destined to be another midfield journeyman, or, if he's lucky, number 2 at a big team. He's another Grosjean - flashes of speed, but ultimately disappointing.

BrettMRC

4,086 posts

160 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JVCraddock said:
Is Ocon something special? There has been a lot of hype surrounding him but has he had f1 results to back it up?
He took out Max whilst unlapping himself at Interlagos, causing a bit of a media hoo-har, some teenage pushing and shoving in the weight check room, some grumpy posturing from Mr Horner...and smirks from everyone else.

I think he has the talent, his psychology needs a bit of work though.

vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Mercedes/Toto rate him and that is a pretty high bar.

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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vaud said:
Mercedes/Toto rate him and that is a pretty high bar.
Not enough to give him a seat, and probably less than Russell...

JVCraddock

26 posts

48 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Isn’t Toto / Mercedes managing him?

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..

leef44

4,388 posts

153 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JVCraddock said:
Is Ocon something special? There has been a lot of hype surrounding him but has he had f1 results to back it up?
I'm with you on this one. I think his fame is that he beat Verstappen in the lower formula previously.

He was a bit jealous of Verstappen and hence his arrogance as a backmarker to battle with Max in Brazil (you wouldn't imagine a backmarker getting in the way of Mansell or Schaumacher in the old days).

In his last season at Spa in Force India (Racing Point?) he would concede to Hamilton when they were fighting for position. A future potential champion would be too fired up and too stubborn to concede. I don't think he has that fire so I think he will end up being another middle runner.

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Deesee said:
Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..
Explain.. what is this evil of which you speak?

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..
Explain.. what is this evil of which you speak?
I know I’ve literally just rubbed bleach into my eyes..

Fernando (gone all John Terry wearing Kit when not appropriate)..



Then Seb saying this..(a while a go)..

https://twitter.com/f1/status/1280850131215093764?...

Then Fernando sending this back..in response..

https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/12808698717...

F1 has gone all WWE!!

Anyway in an alternate timeline in 2012 this happened..

Thank heavens for Lando.

mick987

1,251 posts

110 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Deesee said:
Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..
Alonso is a royal pain in the arse, but he would destroy Vettel in the same car

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Hmmm..

Some thought time..

What the hell is Cyril going to do when Flavio turns up in his team kit asking Pat what lap Ocon is due to (S)bin It..


ajprice

Original Poster:

27,472 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Deesee said:
Hmmm..

Some thought time..

What the hell is Cyril going to do when Flavio turns up in his team kit asking Pat what lap Ocon is due to (S)bin It..
If they want the other driver to spin off on command, Vettel is their man! hehe

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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ajprice said:
Deesee said:
Hmmm..

Some thought time..

What the hell is Cyril going to do when Flavio turns up in his team kit asking Pat what lap Ocon is due to (S)bin It..
If they want the other driver to spin off on command, Vettel is their man! hehe
hehe ‘Team’ (s)pin it & (b)in it..

confucuis

1,303 posts

124 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..
Explain.. what is this evil of which you speak?
I'd love it, I don't rate Ocon. Seeing Vettel and Alonso go toe to toe would be great! The Drama would be even better!!

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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confucuis said:
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Err..

(Jesus)..

Vettel and Alonso 2021 at Renault..

Say it ain’t so.. (gulp)..
Explain.. what is this evil of which you speak?
I'd love it, I don't rate Ocon. Seeing Vettel and Alonso go toe to toe would be great! The Drama would be even better!!
Pointless (perhaps literally) in competitive terms. But yes, it would be fun!

Renault's best chance of headline worthy results probably is fun and drama right now so on that sole basis... Welcome back Alonso smile

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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JVCraddock said:
Is Ocon something special? There has been a lot of hype surrounding him but has he had f1 results to back it up?
I think both he and Russell improved their stock yet again after qualifying.

I know Russell just has to wait it out for what is surely a Mercedes drive at some point, but there surely can't be a driver on the grid more deserving of a better seat? There can't be many drivers who have never been out qualified by a team mate. 23-0 now.

Jinba Ittai

563 posts

91 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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ch37 said:
I think both he and Russell improved their stock yet again after qualifying.

I know Russell just has to wait it out for what is surely a Mercedes drive at some point, but there surely can't be a driver on the grid more deserving of a better seat? There can't be many drivers who have never been out qualified by a team mate. 23-0 now.
I’d love to see Russell in the Mercedes next year, I don’t know what else he can do to show his worth. He’s consistently outperformed his car since he arrived in F1, and he just has that ‘thing’ you can’t quite put your finger on. He just belongs in F1. I have a feeling however, Mercedes will stick with Bottas on another year long contract. That being so, can they please shoe horn him in somehow at Aston Martin next year. Showing what he can do in an upper mid field team will get everyone’s attention.