Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

[Rat_Fink_67]

gshughes said:

I read in Motorsport Magazine's report that the Safety Car was deployed just after the two Mercs had passed the entrance to the pits.

That makes more sense then, thanks.

[North West Tom]

thegreenhell said:

kambites said:

Or maybe he decided to slow down to back Hamilton into the others to drop him more places.

I'd love it if that was the case. Bottas needs to grow a bit of a nasty, selfish streak if he's going to be a champion.

He didn't seem arsed in Quali when he span and ruined everyone's lap.

[coetzeeh]

Rain forecast Fri, Sat and Sun at the Red Bull Ring this week.

[Derek Smith]

ch37 said:

130R said:

Lando's full last lap and uncensored celebration (language warning): https://streamable.com/vq4qzb

That's superb, well worth watching.

That was one hell of a lap from Lando. He was pushing it on the limit all the way through. There's more to this guy that I realised. I hope it gives him confidence. I was impressed at the grip level of the McL and the way it turned in. I know it's running light by then, but still.

[JonChalk]

Derek Smith said:

ch37 said:

130R said:

Lando's full last lap and uncensored celebration (language warning): https://streamable.com/vq4qzb

That's superb, well worth watching.

That was one hell of a lap from Lando. He was pushing it on the limit all the way through. There's more to this guy that I realised. I hope it gives him confidence. I was impressed at the grip level of the McL and the way it turned in. I know it's running light by then, but still.

It’s such a smooth, controlled lap as well. So little movement on the wheel - every corner: turn in, hold the line, open it back up again. No sawing, no corrections. Awesome.

[Evangelion]

Fortitude said:

"Pure luck", but of course that is what you need sometimes in Formula 1 ..

Luck is all very well, but you've got to know what to do with it when you get it! Lando obviously does,that was an absolutely perfect lap.

[ajprice]

Evangelion said:

Fortitude said:

"Pure luck", but of course that is what you need sometimes in Formula 1 ..

Luck is all very well, but you've got to know what to do with it when you get it! Lando obviously does,that was an absolutely perfect lap.

1:07.475. Exactly the same lap time as Verstappen's 2019 fastest lap.

[thegreenhell]

ajprice said:

Evangelion said:

Fortitude said:

"Pure luck", but of course that is what you need sometimes in Formula 1 ..

Luck is all very well, but you've got to know what to do with it when you get it! Lando obviously does,that was an absolutely perfect lap.

1:07.475. Exactly the same lap time as Verstappen's 2019 fastest lap.

And only four seconds off his qualifying pace...

[trackdemon]

coetzeeh said:

Rain forecast Fri, Sat and Sun at the Red Bull Ring this week.

Afraid not, although I'd fancy a bit of rain to spice things up further. Quali could be interesting though....

https://www.yr.no/place/Austria/Styria/Spielberg_b...

[faa77]

BrettMRC said:

With Austria 2 coming up, who and what is going to change?

• Mercedes are going to have to get on top of what ever is causing the vibration sensitivity in the transmission.
• RedBull need to do a post mortum on WTF happened to the electrical control systems of both cars, again I suspect its a vibration sensitivity.
• Haas...how the hell do you fix the brakes in a week? Unless it was purely down to heat and they can knock up a decent duct?
• Williams fuel pressure issue, so either a pump failure or another team with electrical/vibration sensitivity.

I think qualifying will be really impressive coming up, they all know whats on the table now, a 1.02.5 might be on the cards?

Mclaren & Racing Point showed a lot of class, I expect to see them block out Ferrari in positions 4-8.

What do people think?

If these vibrations affect all the teams, would/should they consider lowering the curbs?

[vulture1]

faa77 said:

BrettMRC said:

With Austria 2 coming up, who and what is going to change?

• Mercedes are going to have to get on top of what ever is causing the vibration sensitivity in the transmission.
• RedBull need to do a post mortum on WTF happened to the electrical control systems of both cars, again I suspect its a vibration sensitivity.
• Haas...how the hell do you fix the brakes in a week? Unless it was purely down to heat and they can knock up a decent duct?
• Williams fuel pressure issue, so either a pump failure or another team with electrical/vibration sensitivity.

I think qualifying will be really impressive coming up, they all know whats on the table now, a 1.02.5 might be on the cards?

Mclaren & Racing Point showed a lot of class, I expect to see them block out Ferrari in positions 4-8.

What do people think?

If these vibrations affect all the teams, would/should they consider lowering the curbs?

No one says you have to drive on them. Faster line but bigger risk you shake your car apart seems a fair trade of to me.

[Teddy Lop]

DanielSan said:

It wouldn't be the first time either that they've not made a decision fast enough when under pressure. Mercedes are always bob on with their strategy when they have a clear performance advantage, when there's been races and that advantage isn't there they have been found wanting on occasions.

they tend to fall over every time they're required to think on their feet. Merc/bottas were lucky to get the win as albon would probably have taken it but for his coming together with Hamilton (which was pretty optimistic IMO - just cos Hamilton dodged his lairy moves and conceded on lap one doesn't mean he should expect the same level of compliancy near the end!)

anyway can put to bed all the waffle that bottas is employed as number 2 to Hamilton - has anyone brought up the "Chassis fail 21" radio message? Could swear I've heard that number before somewhere....

[Stan the Bat]

Do we know what went wrong on Verstappen's car ?

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Do we know what went wrong on Verstappen's car ?

Horner karma..

(Or more likely PU CE MGUK MGUH)..

[thegreenhell]

Teddy Lop said:

anyway can put to bed all the waffle that bottas is employed as number 2 to Hamilton - has anyone brought up the "Chassis fail 21" radio message? Could swear I've heard that number before somewhere....

Toto has already denied that one...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-hamilton...

[TheDeuce]

Deesee said:

Stan the Bat said:

Do we know what went wrong on Verstappen's car ?

Horner karma..

(Or more likely PU CE MGUK MGUH)..

Apparently red bull and honda are looking in to it together.. something electrical. Could be anything on that basis.

[anonymous-user]

parabolica said:

Yes, but the ban was dropped quite quickly after maybe one or two seasons.

It lasted a few races. A ridiculous idea when the rules dictate such a complex car design.

[London424]

TheDeuce said:

ettore said:

I think it’s more that you have less strategic options when (always) leading the race. You plot to go as fast as is necessary whilst everyone else throws whatever strategic wild cards they can at you. You’re always in the reactive seat..

That's my take on it. Although it's probably also fair to say that after 6-7 years of barely having to rely on strategy, as a team perhaps they are not as sharp as the likes of red bull? Who knows. Not that it's going to affect their chances this season - their car looks safely ahead of the rest and probably will be most races. Obviously wounded yesterday... But still not exactly a walkover and still won the race!

They’ve been awful around safety car strategy for as long as I can remember. So many bad decisions. Pitting when they shouldn’t. Not putting when they should. Miscalculating time gaps. I don’t think there is a way you could mess it up they haven’t managed in the last 5 years.

[confucuis]

ash73 said:

vulture1 said:

faa77 said:

BrettMRC said:

With Austria 2 coming up, who and what is going to change?

• Mercedes are going to have to get on top of what ever is causing the vibration sensitivity in the transmission.
• RedBull need to do a post mortum on WTF happened to the electrical control systems of both cars, again I suspect its a vibration sensitivity.
• Haas...how the hell do you fix the brakes in a week? Unless it was purely down to heat and they can knock up a decent duct?
• Williams fuel pressure issue, so either a pump failure or another team with electrical/vibration sensitivity.

I think qualifying will be really impressive coming up, they all know whats on the table now, a 1.02.5 might be on the cards?

Mclaren & Racing Point showed a lot of class, I expect to see them block out Ferrari in positions 4-8.

What do people think?

If these vibrations affect all the teams, would/should they consider lowering the curbs?

No one says you have to drive on them. Faster line but bigger risk you shake your car apart seems a fair trade of to me.

Exactly!

I expect they can disable whatever limp mode is set up in the software, if they can't tough luck!

Hope we get plenty of DNFs again, makes it more interesting.

In fact, I wish they used these curbs at all tracks, stop anyone from abusing track limits.

[Deesee]

confucuis said:

ash73 said:

vulture1 said:

faa77 said:

BrettMRC said:

With Austria 2 coming up, who and what is going to change?

• Mercedes are going to have to get on top of what ever is causing the vibration sensitivity in the transmission.
• RedBull need to do a post mortum on WTF happened to the electrical control systems of both cars, again I suspect its a vibration sensitivity.
• Haas...how the hell do you fix the brakes in a week? Unless it was purely down to heat and they can knock up a decent duct?
• Williams fuel pressure issue, so either a pump failure or another team with electrical/vibration sensitivity.

I think qualifying will be really impressive coming up, they all know whats on the table now, a 1.02.5 might be on the cards?

Mclaren & Racing Point showed a lot of class, I expect to see them block out Ferrari in positions 4-8.

What do people think?

If these vibrations affect all the teams, would/should they consider lowering the curbs?

No one says you have to drive on them. Faster line but bigger risk you shake your car apart seems a fair trade of to me.

Exactly!

I expect they can disable whatever limp mode is set up in the software, if they can't tough luck!

Hope we get plenty of DNFs again, makes it more interesting.

In fact, I wish they used these curbs at all tracks, stop anyone from abusing track limits.

They did away with the bigger sausage curbs hence why they thought they could take the Mick in the normal curbs FP1/FP2 might be a slow affair as they won’t have the parts..