Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers
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Deesee said:
Well George has set off for the Autobahn, proper old school with drivers driving to the track!
Something that Nigel Mansell used to do regularly, apparently. Here's 'Smith and Sniff' trying out Nigel's 1986 Mercedes 560 SEC:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHFob6sullQ&t=...
Deesee said:
Well George has set off for the Autobahn, proper old school with drivers driving to the track!
I hadn't thought about that - for most drivers they're at the start of an epic European road trip, driving solo I guess 
There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
Verstappen favourite in Austria as Honda uses engine loophole
https://thejudge13.com/2020/07/01/verstappen-favou...
Gary Anderson Podcast: Why Verstappen’s my title favourite
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-podca...
Spoke to a Red Bull employee last week and the word was, 'Honda have produced a wonderful engine!"
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
https://thejudge13.com/2020/07/01/verstappen-favou...
Gary Anderson Podcast: Why Verstappen’s my title favourite
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-podca...
Spoke to a Red Bull employee last week and the word was, 'Honda have produced a wonderful engine!"
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Well George has set off for the Autobahn, proper old school with drivers driving to the track!
I hadn't thought about that - for most drivers they're at the start of an epic European road trip, driving solo I guess There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
Quick lunch at Garda, then up the Alps through Brenner!
Or London (via Tunnel) to the track, nice high speed run on the Autobahn!
Bliss!
mk1coopers said:
All this time waiting for this first race (and commenting on it at home) and the other half announces last night that she has arranged for us to go to here Sisters for lunch...………..on Sunday afternoon !!!! 
...that's a terrible cough you seem to have developed...probably best you stay home, you know, just in case...?BrettMRC said:
mk1coopers said:
All this time waiting for this first race (and commenting on it at home) and the other half announces last night that she has arranged for us to go to here Sisters for lunch...………..on Sunday afternoon !!!!
...that's a terrible cough you seem to have developed...probably best you stay home, you know, just in case...?Luckily she announced yesterday that she would like to return from the pub at 1:30 so we can watch the race together. I have since discovered that the table we have booked has a 2 hour time limit on it anyway so this isn't quite the gesture I first thought, but still... Thanks Mrs Deuce
Fortitude said:
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
How does the revised race line-up play into this? Starting with two races where Max has a very good chance of success much alter the landscape a little, and with fewer races overall with a different blend, does it lend Red Bull a hand?TheInternet said:
Fortitude said:
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
How does the revised race line-up play into this? Starting with two races where Max has a very good chance of success much alter the landscape a little, and with fewer races overall with a different blend, does it lend Red Bull a hand?Ferrari have admitted their car is too slow and is undergoing redesign.
Honda seem to be close to Mercedes power.
Max is more of a risk taker than Lewis, so with fewer races there is more to be gained by a win?
TheDeuce said:
I hadn't thought about that - for most drivers they're at the start of an epic European road trip, driving solo I guess
There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
Quite a trip for the relatively newly qualified Lando.There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
TheInternet said:
Fortitude said:
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
How does the revised race line-up play into this? Starting with two races where Max has a very good chance of success much alter the landscape a little, and with fewer races overall with a different blend, does it lend Red Bull a hand?Can't see RB beating Merc personally, it remains unlikely imo. But possible? Sure, more possible perhaps as a result of the short season, and where we start racing. And the fact that Honda have sneaked through a PU update in time for Austria where other teams are not able to do so!
If you want to see Max do well specifically, then head over to the Red Bull vs Ferrari thread for details of how likely it is that RB will be ahead of Ferrari this season. Max is likely 3rd, maybe second in the WDC and and RB should be 2nd in WCC. Thems my predictions
Edited by TheDeuce on Wednesday 1st July 10:55
TheInternet said:
Fortitude said:
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
How does the revised race line-up play into this? Starting with two races where Max has a very good chance of success much alter the landscape a little, and with fewer races overall with a different blend, does it lend Red Bull a hand?As to your question, I don’t know whether the overall change in F1 races will be on the side of Red Bull optimally speaking. I don’t have the computer programme to work all that out, but their car, engine and overall package WILL BE very competitive.
The two races at Silverstone, where that circuit is fast, IMHO, should be advantageous to Max Verstappen and Red Bull.
Once the F1 season gets going, IMHO, it is going to be full of surprises, with Max and Red Bull winning, a LOT... ...MUCH to the angst of the others…
ukaskew said:
TheDeuce said:
I hadn't thought about that - for most drivers they're at the start of an epic European road trip, driving solo I guess
There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
Quite a trip for the relatively newly qualified Lando.There should be a competition and perhaps a single championship point for whoever crosses Germany in the shortest time
TheInternet said:
How does the revised race line-up play into this? Starting with two races where Max has a very good chance of success much alter the landscape a little, and with fewer races overall with a different blend, does it lend Red Bull a hand?
I think that if the fundamental traits of previous Red Bull cars remains for this year then the first 5 races should suit them nicely. They have gone well in Austria, Hungary and Silverstone over the past few years so it is highly likely Max will be right in the mix after a few races.With that being said, as I posted a while back consistency is key with it likely being a shorter season so they will need the new cool head Max if they are going to take advantage this year. A hot headed Verstappen will come unstuck but I sense he now has a handle on that. I think he has a real chance to win this year and at worst run Lewis very close.
The First 2 (3 races), will show us the dynamics of the cars and what should be the competitive order, Austria is a power track, it's not downforce sensitive like Hungary.
.20 of a second in Austria is the equivalent of 10 HP where as at Hungary 10hp would be .10
Where as Hungary additional downforce added is more important than power.
The last few years Mercedes have not been able to utilise high power modes because of cooling issues, but this is a whole new concept car and engine, we also saw huge lift and coasting from them, but they were still able to be competitive at the RBR, the new fuel flow regs (including the off throttle fuel flow), means that overall fuel saving will become even more important by being able to run less weight, we should see teams focusing on race engine modes to utilise the H & K abilty.
I'm confident 'should' see a Red Bull/Mercedes front 4 in Quali, for the first 3 race, But i think the race its self will be a bit more competitive through the grid.
A proper championship battle? Well if the last 15/20 yrs were 8 races then a few championships would have been different, no room for errors this year.
.20 of a second in Austria is the equivalent of 10 HP where as at Hungary 10hp would be .10
Where as Hungary additional downforce added is more important than power.
The last few years Mercedes have not been able to utilise high power modes because of cooling issues, but this is a whole new concept car and engine, we also saw huge lift and coasting from them, but they were still able to be competitive at the RBR, the new fuel flow regs (including the off throttle fuel flow), means that overall fuel saving will become even more important by being able to run less weight, we should see teams focusing on race engine modes to utilise the H & K abilty.
I'm confident 'should' see a Red Bull/Mercedes front 4 in Quali, for the first 3 race, But i think the race its self will be a bit more competitive through the grid.
A proper championship battle? Well if the last 15/20 yrs were 8 races then a few championships would have been different, no room for errors this year.
Fortitude said:
Verstappen favourite in Austria as Honda uses engine loophole
https://thejudge13.com/2020/07/01/verstappen-favou...
Gary Anderson Podcast: Why Verstappen’s my title favourite
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-podca...
Spoke to a Red Bull employee last week and the word was, 'Honda have produced a wonderful engine!"
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
I reckon you may well feel the same way after Austria and Hungary, but then there's the rest of the season...https://thejudge13.com/2020/07/01/verstappen-favou...
Gary Anderson Podcast: Why Verstappen’s my title favourite
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-podca...
Spoke to a Red Bull employee last week and the word was, 'Honda have produced a wonderful engine!"
I believe Max Verstappen has a VERY good chance this year, to win the F1 World Championship Title.
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