Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers

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cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Late to the party here but I doff my cap to every single driver out there today and even more so to those in the Q3 conditions, bravery and talent in equal measure.

"Yeah, it was hard to get heat in the front tyres so we were aquaplaning at 300kph" clap

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Posted by Mercedes on social media...



hehe

Leithen

10,884 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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That was the most fun to watch for me since the 80's turbo era.

A massive disparity between power and grip. Shock horror, it is thrilling to watch and the greatest driver of his era shone.

When the sport has a control tyre, why on earth can't it come up with a formula that gives us this in the dry?

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Remember last Saturday and that FIA man (who is usually spotted with the mask below his nose) giving out the trophies at the F1 podium.

Today they tried the trophy daleks and they were worse - https://twitter.com/FIA_F2/status/1282025866973904...

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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FourWheelDrift said:
Remember last Saturday and that FIA man (who is usually spotted with the mask below his nose) giving out the trophies at the F1 podium.

Today they tried the trophy daleks and they were worse - https://twitter.com/FIA_F2/status/1282025866973904...
Jeez.. someone put way too much thought in to that!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Jeez.. someone put way too much thought in to that!
Not enough more like!

TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Leithen said:
That was the most fun to watch for me since the 80's turbo era.

A massive disparity between power and grip. Shock horror, it is thrilling to watch and the greatest driver of his era shone.

When the sport has a control tyre, why on earth can't it come up with a formula that gives us this in the dry?
If you tried to explain in detail how that could work... I bet you'd realise why it couldn't work before you finished typing wink

M5-911

1,349 posts

45 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Tyres choices will be interesting tomorrow. I wonder if Red bull will go medium to start with?

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Nice graphic.
I’m thinking that Med > Soft is the fastest race if they can stretch the first stint, but for track position Soft > Med or Soft > Hard might help someone like Bottas or Leclerc make progress. The ‘green’ track might even favour a two-stop, given they’ve all got loads of tyres available and the race director seems to like sending out the safety car.
The soft went on for a while longer than expected last week.

I think they will start on the soft and wait for the SC.

Medium and the Hard were performing Almost the same on Friday, were the soft showed a 1.00 second advantage.

I know that we are using the same compounds, but they are reacting very differently from last week..

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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M5-911 said:
Tyres choices will be interesting tomorrow. I wonder if Red bull will go medium to start with?
They may split the strategy with a medium start and soft starter, and gamble on a SC, outside the pit window.

However IMO they are racing McLaren and Renault tomorrow, and if there is a SC then Racing Point could get close enough to worry them too.

heebeegeetee

28,735 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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cheddar said:
Late to the party here but I doff my cap to every single driver out there today and even more so to those in the Q3 conditions, bravery and talent in equal measure.

"Yeah, it was hard to get heat in the front tyres so we were aquaplaning at 300kph" clap
Agreed. And only one driver crashed, is that right? And is that some sort of a first?

One of the best qualifying sessions I’ve watched. I think that’s of the order of a Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, Ayrton Senna level of performance from Hamilton. Every time you saw him the car just looked under such control. To be fastest in each session too. I was deeply moved, I felt kind of humbled watching such a fabulous performance. Shan’t forget that in a hurry, I found it mesmerising.



TheDeuce

21,545 posts

66 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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heebeegeetee said:
Agreed. And only one driver crashed, is that right? And is that some sort of a first?

One of the best qualifying sessions I’ve watched. I think that’s of the order of a Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, Ayrton Senna level of performance from Hamilton. Every time you saw him the car just looked under such control. To be fastest in each session too. I was deeply moved, I felt kind of humbled watching such a fabulous performance. Shan’t forget that in a hurry, I found it mesmerising.
Well said. The modern era does mask the drivers effort to the extent I can understand many believe that it's all down to the car.. but then days like today happen and it's raw and punishing - and we get to see just how much an F1 driver has to give. Lewis had more to give than the rest, it was awesome - I use that word in its literal sense. His connectivity through the car to the tarmac below is awesome. He's qualified as an all time great, easily.

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Anyone seen DeltonaS? Is he OK? I imagine his tears are making his bedroom like the circuit at the minute

Leithen

10,884 posts

267 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Leithen said:
That was the most fun to watch for me since the 80's turbo era.

A massive disparity between power and grip. Shock horror, it is thrilling to watch and the greatest driver of his era shone.

When the sport has a control tyre, why on earth can't it come up with a formula that gives us this in the dry?
If you tried to explain in detail how that could work... I bet you'd realise why it couldn't work before you finished typing wink
It isn't rocket science. Drastically lower grip through use of much harder tyres. And I mean drastically. Go far enough and you can then get rid this era's awful power unit regs. Open engine formula, limited by fuel, weight and safety.

Everyone in the sport would hate it, there would be wailing about corner speeds, but the results would quickly expose the fact that cars glued to road are as boring as hell and no-one cares about tyre compounds.

We need artistry on the limit, plain to see. Just like today.

There you go - not hard really. wink


dtrump

2,120 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Leithen said:
It isn't rocket science. Drastically lower grip through use of much harder tyres. And I mean drastically. Go far enough and you can then get rid this era's awful power unit regs. Open engine formula, limited by fuel, weight and safety.

Everyone in the sport would hate it, there would be wailing about corner speeds, but the results would quickly expose the fact that cars glued to road are as boring as hell and no-one cares about tyre compounds.

We need artistry on the limit, plain to see. Just like today.

There you go - not hard really. wink
Agreed

It seems astonishingly simple

Would much rather see cars 30+mph slower....but closer...actually racing each other........and slithering all over the shop

Sadly would be near impossible to get the teams to agree also crycrycrycry

Clockwork Cupcake

74,543 posts

272 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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dtrump said:
It seems astonishingly simple
Anything "astonishingly simple" that has been seemingly overlooked by people with far more knowledge than armchair experts is almost certainly not as simple as it appears to be. Or it would have been adopted already.


Clockwork Cupcake

74,543 posts

272 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Leithen said:
It isn't rocket science. Drastically lower grip through use of much harder tyres. And I mean drastically. Go far enough and you can then get rid this era's awful power unit regs. Open engine formula, limited by fuel, weight and safety.

Everyone in the sport would hate it, there would be wailing about corner speeds, but the results would quickly expose the fact that cars glued to road are as boring as hell and no-one cares about tyre compounds.

We need artistry on the limit, plain to see. Just like today.

There you go - not hard really. wink
Maybe you'd like to see some more crashes too, and maybe the occasional death? Just like the good old days.

Fortitude

492 posts

192 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Max Verstappen upbeat as Red Bull gear up for Lewis Hamilton battle at Styrian Grand Prix

Max Verstappen is confident Red Bull can have a "good shot" at winning the Styrian Grand Prix.

By James Benson
PUBLISHED: 17:41, Sat, Jul 11, 2020 | UPDATED: 17:41, Sat, Jul 11, 2020

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/13082...

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Zoobeef said:
Anyone seen DeltonaS? Is he OK? I imagine his tears are making his bedroom like the circuit at the minute
Why, the points are awarded on Sunday.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Anything "astonishingly simple" that has been seemingly overlooked by people with far more knowledge than armchair experts is almost certainly not as simple as it appears to be. Or it would have been adopted already.
Given the correlation between intelligent people and common sense I wouldn't bank on that to be honest. F1 is the only sport where the teams have a say in the rules, imagine how ridiculous it would be if Man United/Liverpool/Man City etc had a say in what rules were adopted by the Premier league every year and how the cash coming into the sport was distributed. It's the stupidest thing in sport and aslong as that's the case rules that actually improve the racing will never be put in place.