Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers
Discussion
kambites said:
So still no real indication of what the Redbull car do.
I think they were either holding back and/or heavily fueled. Max only entered the top 5 (4th) on any of the sector speed traps (sector one), when traditionally they would be one of the fastest in sector 2.. I think Mercedes were not pushing all that hard either to be honest.
It's tricky on the first practice sessions of the season, we can't know how much is race/quali prep and how much is basically car testing. Also, the top teams are often able to to have confidence in what the car will be able to do, even if they have only pushed to 90% of that result. FP3 is bound to reveal more of quali pace, but I think for true race pace we'll need this first race
HustleRussell said:
I'm ready to coronate Hamilton and Mercedes but 3rd-6th in the constructors is going to be spicy as f
k
I hope Red bull don't have a season long issue with this rear stall
Yes, and definitely yes to the battle for 3rd-6th in WCC!!kI hope Red bull don't have a season long issue with this rear stall
If RB have a baked in issue that would be annoying. The entire sport is better if they're at the top punching.
TheDeuce said:
If RB have a baked in issue that would be annoying. The entire sport is better if they're at the top punching.
I know the commentators would've said this but Verstappen especially had loads of spins in testing and also during test sessions last seasonThey've got consistently something in their aero package which is suddenly taking load off the rear with steering angle and I can't imagine it's deliberate.
Watching F2 now, and those 18" rims look soooooo good! That will be both a good and also fraught change when they come to F1!
Fraught due to about half of the suspension in an F1 car currently coming from the tall tyre walls. There are always upsets when there is a major change in tyre/rim spec.
Fraught due to about half of the suspension in an F1 car currently coming from the tall tyre walls. There are always upsets when there is a major change in tyre/rim spec.
(Don't type that in to google, it will bring up none F1 results..)Stay in Bed Instead said:
No more wheel banging. The rims appear to sit proud of the tyre.
Interesting point. I wonder if the age old assumption that light wheel on wheel contact doesn't result in damage will have to be reevaluated. If so will that be good or bad for racing?Same with clipping walls, if it's the rim making contact it might do considerably more damage.
kambites said:
Well yes, you've got to imagine Mercedes can do a 1:02.xx in qualifying. However the rest of the field looks to be in vaguely the order you'd expect so are presumably running broadly similar programs. Redbull look the odd one out at the moment.
It could be that they were holding back today having confirmed early on they (still) have an unstable rear. They clearly have an issue..kambites said:
Interesting point. I wonder if the age old assumption that light wheel on wheel contact doesn't result in damage will have to be reevaluated. If so will that be good or bad for racing?
Same with clipping walls, if it's the rim making contact it might do considerably more damage.
I would have thought any contact between the rim and another solid surface would probably cause damage somewhere. Same with clipping walls, if it's the rim making contact it might do considerably more damage.
SpudLink said:
I would have thought any contact between the rim and another solid surface would probably cause damage somewhere.
Not a single component supporting that wheel is designed to take that sort of instant lateral compressive force, it's chief purpose is to withstand vertical forces. Obviously there is inherent strength in any assembly that will survive a certain degree of unexpected force, so a rim knocking the rim of another car down a straight probably wouldn't exceed the same force the assembly would be subject to under, say, 3g cornering force... But a strong shock force I can imagine would exceed the design limits.Only as things stand today of course. I'm sure the designers and engineers are thinking of what may be required in the future. Or maybe any driver that risks knocking wheels will just be severely frowned upon..
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