Leclerc Twitter statement

Leclerc Twitter statement

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Daveb257

Original Poster:

997 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Going against the majority of media opinion is a brave statement for someone so much in the public eye, well done for saying what you believe Charles

I believe that what matters are facts and behaviours in our daily life rather than formal gestures that could be seen as controversial in some countries. I will not take the knee but this does not mean at all that I am less committed than others in the fight against racism.

https://twitter.com/charles_leclerc/status/1279729...



sparta6

3,694 posts

100 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Leclerc has class

HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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sparta6 said:
Leclerc has class
Yep, not following the crowd, has his own thoughts and is not scared to do his own thing.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Its no coincidence the gesture that emerged as a provocative insult to many has been co opted.

As ever too many want an enemy/someone to vilify/reinforce their tribal validity, rather than simply work for the goal in peace.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Cue the leftie/SJW 'cancel mob'.

TwentyFive

336 posts

66 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Good for Charles Leclerc. Nice to see someone stand by their viewpoint and in the public limelight too.

My view is that the GPDA should have just released a statement signed by all the drivers confirming that they are united as racers over issues of race and be done with it.

The are all going to be wearing 'end racism' t shirts on the grid apparently which is fine. I just don't believe sport and politics should mix.

It could be interpreted as somewhat hypocritical to be taking a knee for BLM given the anti-capitalist connotations when the very sport they compete in relies on it to be globally successful in the first place.

I think Leclerc has got it right.

Lets just go racing already. Bring on 14:10.

Scrump

21,973 posts

158 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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I wonder if mind games with Hamilton had any part to play in this. scratchchin

Paul_M3

2,367 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Scrump said:
I wonder if mind games with Hamilton had any part to play in this. scratchchin
That would be pointless, because I don't the the Ferrari cars will be on Hamiltons mind at all based on the pace shown so far this weekend.

sparta6

3,694 posts

100 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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TwentyFive said:
Good for Charles Leclerc. Nice to see someone stand by their viewpoint and in the public limelight too.

My view is that the GPDA should have just released a statement signed by all the drivers confirming that they are united as racers over issues of race and be done with it.

The are all going to be wearing 'end racism' t shirts on the grid apparently which is fine. I just don't believe sport and politics should mix.

It could be interpreted as somewhat hypocritical to be taking a knee for BLM given the anti-capitalist connotations when the very sport they compete in relies on it to be globally successful in the first place.

I think Leclerc has got it right.

Lets just go racing already. Bring on 14:10.
yes

LM240

4,657 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Well done.

No doubt to be branded ‘part of the problem’, but I agree with his decision. I hope others feel confident enough if they don’t wish to do it.

Jasandjules

69,868 posts

229 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Good for him. He is paid to drive the car not for politics.

kambites

67,547 posts

221 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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TwentyFive said:
I just don't believe sport and politics should mix.
Like it or not, sport and politics always mix. Always have done and always will do.

Killer2005

19,629 posts

228 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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LM240 said:
Well done.

No doubt to be branded ‘part of the problem’, but I agree with his decision. I hope others feel confident enough if they don’t wish to do it.
Lewis has already put out comments that silence is complicity so he's already on the attack.

Max also won't be "taking a knee".

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Killer2005 said:
LM240 said:
Well done.

No doubt to be branded ‘part of the problem’, but I agree with his decision. I hope others feel confident enough if they don’t wish to do it.
Lewis has already put out comments that silence is complicity so he's already on the attack.

Max also won't be "taking a knee".
Good decision Charles and Max.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Politics affects every person every day. You can't just say that one part of life has nothing to do with it. If more people took an interest in politics rather than being ostriches then the world would be a much better place.

Nothing wrong with LeClerc not taking a knee by the way. But he has stated his opinions so it's not as though he is ignoring the issue.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Killer2005 said:
Lewis has already put out comments that silence is complicity so he's already on the attack.

Max also won't be "taking a knee".
I saw max on the tv being questioned on it, he sounded like he wasn't expecting the question and he'd been caught unaware of the whole thing, something like "um yes of course um racism is bad and yes um we need to not have it"

Made me laugh anyway.

Jasandjules

69,868 posts

229 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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kambites said:
TwentyFive said:
I just don't believe sport and politics should mix.
Like it or not, sport and politics always mix. Always have done and always will do.
Do you take a knee at work? If not, why not?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Who’s Jonny Kane ?

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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My opinion here on this issue

Simply put: People of colour are not that interested in F1 or motorsport in general in comparison to soccer, NFL, athletics, basketball, etc etc.

Attend a big meeting like Goodwood, I would imagine you see a fairly low percentage of non whites at these events.

Regarding engineering I think it is true there are not enough black engineers or mechanics, I work in manufacturing and the spread is far more than you see in F1.

Is this also cultural, are black people not interested in motorsport engineering? I would say they are, but not in as greater numbers.

What I do think people like Lewis are pushing for is what has happened in other industry like public services, and that will be the creation of a demographic in teams, and that is a dangerous precedent.

It's the same as sexism in the workplace or representation on boards etc. Positions should be earned ONLY on skill, not on any other aspect, and sadly when these causes come in and take effect that can often lead to miscued recruitment. And that is not fair on the team or the people recruited that way.

I dont think it's about education, it is simply cultural, people of colour are just not as interested in this sport in its many guises as white people are. No amount of educaiton can change that.

Smollet

10,535 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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HTP99 said:
Yep, not following the crowd, has his own thoughts and is not scared to do his own thing.
He’s gone up immeasurably in my estimation with this statement. Gestures are meaningless as they tend to get exploited as has been seen of late. I think it should be down to the individual and not a blanket corporate issue. It would be nice if Lewis were to say as such if he hasn’t already. LeClerc not taking a knee will hopefully embolden those who weren’t comfortable with it but are probably too wary of how the media could rip into them if they didn’t comply with the mind games.