Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

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Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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vdn said:
He’s definitely insecure, it’s been obvious for many years and also, a little odd.

When he says about the car but ignores the fact that the people he hails also found their way into the best cars, anyone can see he’s being disingenuous.

He also ignores and seemingly underestimates the sheer will to win needed to be so consistent over so many years. Merc engineers have said that Lewis can have had a perfect weekend but will still spend hours analysing the data, looking for perfection. Meanwhile, Max is pissing about on his jet whilst Leclerc and Norris are playing Playstation.

hehe
Not to mention having a more reliable car than Bottas, Verstappen, Norris and Leclerc hehe


RichB

51,435 posts

283 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Bo_apex said:
Not to mention having a more reliable car than Bottas, Verstappen, Norris and Leclerc hehe
confused What does this have to do with JYS?

heebeegeetee

28,598 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
Much as he may be a bitter old fool, one can't deny Stewart's talent. In the early 70's, he really was the man - as you rightly specify.

Clark was clearly a huge talent though and I think it's wrong to lay too much credit at Chapman's feet for that. Clark demonstrated several times that he could win in anything - i.e Touring cars & the Indy 500.
Also JYS went on an unprecedented safety campaign as a driver, for which he became hated. He basically stood his ground and faced off against pretty much *everybody*.

Of course he proved to be totally correct and every one of us was wrong. Motor racing can be entertaining without a driver dying or being smashed to a pulp for making a tiny error.

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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vaud said:
Aside from drivers, sponsors wouldn't accept multiple drivers dying in cars with their logos on.

TT is a niche event.

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. which includes reasonable safety measures.
Monster Energy launched their products at the TT.
They are now sponsoring Mercedes F1 drivers.
As the world's biggest Road Race event I wouldn't exactly call it niche.
Bigger than the MM and Targa Florio were.

Michael Dunlop et al are exceptional and bravest of the brave.

vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Aegir said:
Bo_apex said:
vaud said:
Aside from drivers, sponsors wouldn't accept multiple drivers dying in cars with their logos on.

TT is a niche event.

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. which includes reasonable safety measures.
Monster Energy launched their products at the TT.
They are now sponsoring Mercedes F1 drivers.
As the world's biggest Road Race event I wouldn't exactly call it niche.
Bigger than the MM and Targa Florio were.

Michael Dunlop et al are exceptional and bravest of the brave.
Also don't forget that bloke John Surtees who amongst 7 World Championships on bikes, won 6 TT races then toddled off to Ferrari to have a go on four wheels.
I don't question their bravery.

No-one has made the move from 2 to 4 wheels (F1) in recent years.

It is niche, but a wonderful anachronism that I think should continue.

Their viewing figures and the money involved is nothing like F1. Global sponsors would not tolerate multiple F1 driver deaths in a season.

C70R

17,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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vaud said:
Aegir said:
Bo_apex said:
vaud said:
Aside from drivers, sponsors wouldn't accept multiple drivers dying in cars with their logos on.

TT is a niche event.

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. which includes reasonable safety measures.
Monster Energy launched their products at the TT.
They are now sponsoring Mercedes F1 drivers.
As the world's biggest Road Race event I wouldn't exactly call it niche.
Bigger than the MM and Targa Florio were.

Michael Dunlop et al are exceptional and bravest of the brave.
Also don't forget that bloke John Surtees who amongst 7 World Championships on bikes, won 6 TT races then toddled off to Ferrari to have a go on four wheels.
I don't question their bravery.

No-one has made the move from 2 to 4 wheels (F1) in recent years.

It is niche, but a wonderful anachronism that I think should continue.

Their viewing figures and the money involved is nothing like F1. Global sponsors would not tolerate multiple F1 driver deaths in a season.
Absolutely. The TT is many things, most of them great, but "mainstream" is not one of them.

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Aegir said:
Bo_apex said:
vaud said:
Aside from drivers, sponsors wouldn't accept multiple drivers dying in cars with their logos on.

TT is a niche event.

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. which includes reasonable safety measures.
Monster Energy launched their products at the TT.
They are now sponsoring Mercedes F1 drivers.
As the world's biggest Road Race event I wouldn't exactly call it niche.
Bigger than the MM and Targa Florio were.

Michael Dunlop et al are exceptional and bravest of the brave.
Also don't forget that bloke John Surtees who amongst 7 World Championships on bikes, won 6 TT races then toddled off to Ferrari to have a go on four wheels.
Incredible achievement
Unlikely to be repeated

Exige77

6,518 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Aegir said:
Bo_apex said:
Incredible achievement
Unlikely to be repeated
Serious competitors in motorsport are channelled at a very young age nowadays onto a specific pathway with a clear goal such as F1 World Champion. This makes it basically impossible for anybody to have cross championship success, not to mention the cost !
Rossi had a chance to move to F1 with Ferrari but it would have been a huge risk he didn’t fancy in the end. I doubt we will ever see Surtees achievement repeated.

Gary29

4,131 posts

98 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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C70R said:
Absolutely. The TT is many things, most of them great, but "mainstream" is not one of them.
Exactly, ask 10 random people who John McGuinness is and see the confused looks you get.

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Gary29 said:
C70R said:
Absolutely. The TT is many things, most of them great, but "mainstream" is not one of them.
Exactly, ask 10 random people who John McGuinness is and see the confused looks you get.
You might get the same response when asking those same random people to name a Formula E driver hehe

Mr Dendrite

2,301 posts

209 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Bo_apex said:
Gary29 said:
C70R said:
Absolutely. The TT is many things, most of them great, but "mainstream" is not one of them.
Exactly, ask 10 random people who John McGuinness is and see the confused looks you get.
You might get the same response when asking those same random people to name a Formula E driver hehe
I thought that was any second tier F1 driver who got kicked out by Redbull biggrin

angrymoby

2,605 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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RB Will said:
Kind of on topic.





I think the thing that stands out is the number of races and different classes ye olde drivers used to do. 85 different classes for Moss. Looking at Wiki Hamilton with a longer career has only been in about 12? Including various karts
not really a comparable 'sport' back then, though was it ...more of a rich mans past time:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.1950-vs...

pquinn

7,167 posts

45 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings - between the singing and the 'I'm changing a tyre myself in motorway services with a photographer in tow, on a car that has no spare' it's all getting a bit attention seeking.

Guess the day job is too boring at the moment.

paulguitar

23,108 posts

112 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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pquinn said:
At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings
Not you though. wink

HighwayStar

4,216 posts

143 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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paulguitar said:
pquinn said:
At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings
Not you though. wink
Hahaaa typical. I’ll never understand folk moaning about what other people/celebs post on their social media. I haven’t posted anything on Facebook in 10+yrs, don’t have Instagram, Twitter or whatever. I’ve no interest in erm, say the Kardashians, so when stuff pops up, magazine articles... guess what. I don’t ignore/don’t look/don’t read it.
I wouldn’t read something I know was going to annoy me and then go on social media to moan about it.
Strange, he must be trying to kick something off wink

Graveworm

8,476 posts

70 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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angrymoby said:
not really a comparable 'sport' back then, though was it ...more of a rich mans past time:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.1950-vs...
This "Documentary" covers it for a different sporting activity. wink
https://www.facebook.com/lfcboston/videos/10153476...

nickfrog

20,874 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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pquinn said:
At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings - between the singing and the 'I'm changing a tyre myself in motorway services with a photographer in tow, on a car that has no spare' it's all getting a bit attention seeking.
I had to look it up as I hadn't heard of this, unlike you.

What photographer?

Muzzer79

9,806 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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pquinn said:
At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings - between the singing and the 'I'm changing a tyre myself in motorway services with a photographer in tow, on a car that has no spare' it's all getting a bit attention seeking.

Guess the day job is too boring at the moment.
Odd post

Social media as a concept is "attention seeking" in that you're posting photographs of what you're doing for others to see.

Would you rather he not engage with social media? Or just post pictures of more racing-driver-y things?

If the latter, there's only so many "here's me on a promo event/here's me on a simulator/here's me in the pits" stuff you can do before it all gets a bit repetitive.....


vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
pquinn said:
At least everyone is managing to avoid the latest social media witterings - between the singing and the 'I'm changing a tyre myself in motorway services with a photographer in tow, on a car that has no spare' it's all getting a bit attention seeking.

Guess the day job is too boring at the moment.
Odd post

Social media as a concept is "attention seeking" in that you're posting photographs of what you're doing for others to see.

Would you rather he not engage with social media? Or just post pictures of more racing-driver-y things?

If the latter, there's only so many "here's me on a promo event/here's me on a simulator/here's me in the pits" stuff you can do before it all gets a bit repetitive.....
It is a bit odd to post a pic of changing a wheel on a car that has no spare wheel.

Deesee

8,331 posts

82 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Man on 40million a yr from Merc, posts a Merc EQ wheel on his Twitter...

Normal social media IMO.