Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Sport and politics should never mix. It's horrible to watch.
Why the hell not?Using this logic, do you believe that South Africa should have been permitted to enter the Olympics during apartheid?
If you truly believe sport and 'politics' should not mix, stand by it and tell me honestly what your opinion is about the events in this picture.
Or how about Cassius Clay? He returned back to Louisville, Kentucky, as Olympic champion, and threw his gold medal into the Ohio river, having been refused service in a 'whites-only' restaurant. Later on, now as Muhammad Ali, he refused to fight in Vietnam and raised massive awareness as to the dodginess of that whole situation.
Mr Pointy said:
spunkytherabbit said:
Not at all. What the poster meant to say is "of course sport & the politics I agree with should be allowed to mix".
Again, what seems to be the problem? This is sanctioned/encouraged by F1 and the FIA and has the backing of all the drivers, not just LH. What has this got to do with LH in particular? This is not politics anyway and if anyone has an issue they need to speak to Todt/Carey/Domenicali.
nickfrog said:
Again, what seems to be the problem? This is sanctioned/encouraged by F1 and the FIA and has the backing of all the drivers, not just LH. What has this got to do with LH in particular? This is not politics anyway and if anyone has an issue they need to speak to Todt/Carey/Domenicali.
If anyone has an issue they should don their pillowcase. Once again people using black and white points of view to justify their argument, where as its actually a shade of grey.
There is a HUGE difference between using the poppy, the clenched fist for black power/ pride and then comparing it to the Nazi salute.
One side is asking for understanding, highlighting inequality, oppression and commemorating those who have lost lives, the other is a salute to a cause that is the direct opposite and wants to harm people.
If you cant differentiate between the 2 and therefore want to ban all 'politics' then quite frankly you need to give your heads a wobble.
As an aside, i cant remember any of you complaining when Trump used Daytona as a political stunt, Putin and other dignitaries jump on the podium, teams have sponsors that are politically motivated...
...but somehow you've got an issue with a black lad trying to highlight racial inequality. (and i say a black lad, because no one here has jumped on the Vettel forum and complained about him taking the knee either.....)
Not that ive ever seen trying to strive for equality as political anyway, surely its a basic human right, which if given there would be no need to protest against it and you can all go back to watching F1 and have nothing to b!tch about.
There is a HUGE difference between using the poppy, the clenched fist for black power/ pride and then comparing it to the Nazi salute.
One side is asking for understanding, highlighting inequality, oppression and commemorating those who have lost lives, the other is a salute to a cause that is the direct opposite and wants to harm people.
If you cant differentiate between the 2 and therefore want to ban all 'politics' then quite frankly you need to give your heads a wobble.
As an aside, i cant remember any of you complaining when Trump used Daytona as a political stunt, Putin and other dignitaries jump on the podium, teams have sponsors that are politically motivated...
...but somehow you've got an issue with a black lad trying to highlight racial inequality. (and i say a black lad, because no one here has jumped on the Vettel forum and complained about him taking the knee either.....)
Not that ive ever seen trying to strive for equality as political anyway, surely its a basic human right, which if given there would be no need to protest against it and you can all go back to watching F1 and have nothing to b!tch about.
swisstoni said:
nickfrog said:
swisstoni said:
This is sometimes politicised by the ignorant.
But it is not political.
Agreed, it's like racial equality in that sense: not political.But it is not political.
They haven’t formed a political party as far as I’m aware.
nickfrog said:
swisstoni said:
This is sometimes politicised by the ignorant.
But it is not political.
Agreed, it's like racial equality in that sense: not political.But it is not political.
I don't know why people continue to call this politics. I fear it's an attempt to muddy the waters.
Lewis Hamilton asking for people to consider their understanding of systemic racist discrimination is in no way a political statement.
Mr Pointy said:
spunkytherabbit said:
Not at all. What the poster meant to say is "of course sport & the politics I agreee with should be allowed to mix".People who don't feel confident enough to say "All Lives Matter" in public are using the loony minority politicisation of "Black Lives Matter" as a way to dismiss Lewis's attempts to raise awareness of horrendous social injustice.
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