Croft has to go

Croft has to go

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Spevs

106 posts

16 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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I'm sure his family are more than happy he's away so often. Couldn't imagine being in his company for more than a minute tbh.

2172cc

925 posts

85 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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I'm considering getting rid of SKY F1 as well. I'll probably ring them over the weekend. I find that I don't watch all the practice and quali like I used to and only the race so maybe it's time to give it up🤔

Wish

1,104 posts

237 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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JonChalk said:
I've binned off Sky Sports for the last 2 races of the year to see if I could cope for a whole season next year, so have been listening to 5live for practice and quali sessions.

You have no idea of how much not having to listen to Croft improves a GP weekend.
I’ve done exactly the same, listened to the last race on five live and found it very relaxing on my iPods.
Didn’t know practise was also live on five live.


carl_w

8,522 posts

246 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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2172cc said:
I'm considering getting rid of SKY F1 as well. I'll probably ring them over the weekend. I find that I don't watch all the practice and quali like I used to and only the race so maybe it's time to give it up??
For the last few years I've been watching it on NOW TV and binning it in the off season. They usually have an offer prior to the start of the season (I'm currently paying £19/month) and you get the Indycar too. But I'm thinking of going down the F1TV route next year.

thegreenhell

12,364 posts

207 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Wish said:
I’ve done exactly the same, listened to the last race on five live and found it very relaxing on my iPods.
Didn’t know practise was also live on five live.
Every session is on 5Live. They had John Watson on commentary today.

LukeBrown66

3,832 posts

34 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Is it really necessary to watch sessions live, really?

PhilAsia

2,558 posts

63 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
Is it really necessary to watch sessions live, really?
I haven't this year because of AD, but I would normally as you feel part of it. Some of the st I have got up to watch F1 has been worthy of a book. In Asia it can be uber difficult to find somewhere to watch F1. I have sat in a place around 2004/5 with zieg heiling 70 year old nazis ffs!

He never came out the next time I went there.

freedman

4,971 posts

195 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
The better commentators for me are Dave Addison, sadly paired with an ought to be retired John Watson in SRO stuff.

Martin Haven is excellent, funny and informative in WEC.

John Hindhaugh, can be a little over opinionated and commercial at times, but I can listen to him happily for hours with Jeremy Shaw in IMSA.

the ones with the big gigs, sadly are not great, Croft, Gavin (as it stands) Emmet in MotoGP, the shouty Aussie who does INdycar,

what the god guys do is be there without being OTT., shouty and making inane jokes and comments.

Croft is not the worst, Carlton Kirby is that, by a long way the worst commentator on sport I have ever heard, yet somehow managed to find work for decades, probably because he speaks numerous languages.

the question has to be, if this talking stops you from acwthing, in MotoGP, F1 and a few other sports yes it does, and that is not good.
Haven is utterly abysmal on the WEC coverage

Talks too much and decides what’s happened without any evidence

Last round, one of the RSRs spins on lap one, and struggles to restart

According to Haven it’s a broken driveshaft 30 seconds later car rejoins and carries on without issue

I find ale Man’s painful when he’s on shift.

At least they’ve finally binned Kirby and Mark Cole

C70R

14,269 posts

92 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
Is it really necessary to watch sessions live, really?
I didn't think you watched at all?

Come to think of it, you post a lot for someone who claims not to watch F1...

Teddy Lop

7,363 posts

55 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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For those of you watching via F1TV - if you're casting from a phone to smart TV box, does the smart TV box need VPN too?

LukeBrown66

3,832 posts

34 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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I dont watch f1 much no, I take a few races in so enough to comment, but are you adding to the discussion or just taking the mick? One is easy, one take a bit more thought huh!

Regarding WEC I like Shaven Haven, he makes me laugh, he is critical of decisions when necessary and drivers, does not sit on the fence and I dont mind his waffles, but then WEC is suited to that, Davidson adds a lot as a recent driver and is more interesting than McNish who is as dull to listen to as anyone I can recall!

I used to watch session in F1 years ago, but quickly realised it was full of rubbish, it used to be better when they got journos in the box, like MotoGP did years ago, you got news then and rumours not just soft language, stats and garbage like now


paulguitar

19,294 posts

101 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Croft just said Vettel's lap in Q3 was 'quicker than Michael Schumacher's'

Adrian W

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13,108 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Just in case anyone missed Magnussen fluke pole in Brazil, Croft thought he would remind us, over and over and over again

Teppic

6,839 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Oh God. The verbal diarrhoea he has just spouted about how many more overtakes we’ve had this year compared to last. Just say “we’ve had twice/ three times as many overtakes”. Don’t list the percentage increase at each fking race you fat sack of crap!

HustleRussell

22,924 posts

148 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Talking nonsense about outside overtakes and switch-backs where there is no prospect of either happening

Brainpox

3,759 posts

139 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Just described Lewis as a sleeping praying mantis for some reason. Imagine paying someone to say things like that.

GiantCardboardPlato

1,364 posts

9 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Is that a sleeping mantis that’s hunting or a preying mantis that’s sleeping?

Adrian W

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13,108 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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How can he spout so much rubbish, he was just screaming gibberish, we are all watching DR and SV 100 metres between them and he’s commentating on a different imaginary race

C70R

14,269 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Adrian W said:
How can he spout so much rubbish, he was just screaming gibberish, we are all watching DR and SV 100 metres between them and he’s commentating on a different imaginary race
Sky have very clearly told him to dial up the hype when the races are dull. Imaginary battles are his specialty.

Teddy Lop

7,363 posts

55 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Adrian W said:
How can he spout so much rubbish, he was just screaming gibberish, we are all watching DR and SV 100 metres between them and he’s commentating on a different imaginary race
Last week's new tyres being stickier than a very sticky stick that's sticky or whatever inane drivel he was spouting did for me. It's just condescending.

Got F1TV pro for £6.99 for a one month pass, very pleased actually. Commentary team follow the action far better and read developing situations, talk like adults that aren't addressing a summer camp for hyperactive children, and also use split screens when they want to focus on something the director isn't, such as the inevitable start replays that always play over some live track action. Didn't even miss brundles input (which has been waning anyway, I think working with croft has destroyed him).

So it'll be goodbye sky I think, guess I'll pointedly cite croft if they ask why;). Discovery app will give me Eurosport for bikes and other stuff and I'm wondering if I should bother with a Freesat DVR or go full web