Avon tyres - beware!
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I thought this may be of some interest...
https://www.avontyres.com/en-gb/improper-use-on-ca...
Just in case!
https://www.avontyres.com/en-gb/improper-use-on-ca...
Just in case!
We use GT Radial Maxmiler , these were OEM tyres , and I have had them fitted as replacements.
The tyres have a higher load capacity than car tyres , 750 kg + ,this is essential , when you consider the weight of a single axle caravan ,the tyres are 8 ply construction and run at over 60psi .something car tyres can’t match .
Our first new caravan , years ago , came with Michelin car tyres as OEM , and within the first year I had suffered a double blow out .
So I can understand the warning from Avon
The tyres have a higher load capacity than car tyres , 750 kg + ,this is essential , when you consider the weight of a single axle caravan ,the tyres are 8 ply construction and run at over 60psi .something car tyres can’t match .
Our first new caravan , years ago , came with Michelin car tyres as OEM , and within the first year I had suffered a double blow out .
So I can understand the warning from Avon
GSalt said:
This is worrying as it perpetuates the myth that motorhomes must use "CP" rated tyres.#
I could understand it of Avon only made car tyres and didn't make van or light truck tyres, but this isn't the case.
Don't get this either, a motorhome is just a van and so van tyres should be ok?I could understand it of Avon only made car tyres and didn't make van or light truck tyres, but this isn't the case.
Armchair Expert said:
Don't get this either, a motorhome is just a van and so van tyres should be ok?
That's the sensible response. But I hadn't realised that the CP tyre manufacturers are already conspiring to make trouble for anyone deviating from the OEM tyre specification as fitted by the MH builder. Of course, they've already got themselves into bed with the MH builders to make sure your new motorhome arrives with CP rubber on each corner.If CP tyres were safety critical, then why aren't they made in a wider range of sizes and why aren't they made in winter or all-season versions? If I was going to fork out for Michelins on a vehicle that does less than 7k miles a year I'd want them to be CrossClimate (not available as CP) with 3PSF that would cover me for winter driving rules in northern Europe and the Alps.
Light truck tyres are what I have fitted, I haven't much option - it's an older MH with 14" wheels and Michelin stopped doing CP tyres in that size several years ago.
Interestingly, i am just looking to replay our wheels and tyres. But i was going for property van rated alloys and winter tyres rated to 120/121 and 10 ply.
Definitely need winter snow flake / mountain for ski trips and we are looking to up grade our weight limit from 3.65 to 3.85 of higher if we can with air-assist on the rears.
V.
Definitely need winter snow flake / mountain for ski trips and we are looking to up grade our weight limit from 3.65 to 3.85 of higher if we can with air-assist on the rears.
V.
I need a pair of tyres for my caravan and am struggling to find a supplier who has (or can get) the correct tyre and who will handle wheels with Tyron bands fitted.
My first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
My first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
I was always under the impression that MH tyres were designed to sit for long periods without moving (I.e. regularly laid up) and without suffering from ensuing damage compared to van tyres which tend to be used regularly.
Could be total b
ks of course and I can’t remember where I heard it and as I know bumpkis about tyres it sort of seemed reasonable. But as I said, could be bovine manure.
Could be total b
ks of course and I can’t remember where I heard it and as I know bumpkis about tyres it sort of seemed reasonable. But as I said, could be bovine manure.valiant said:
I was always under the impression that MH tyres were designed to sit for long periods without moving (I.e. regularly laid up) and without suffering from ensuing damage compared to van tyres which tend to be used regularly.
Number 3 in the link below"...and often have extra reinforcement in the sidewalls to better resist winter lay-up and vehicle weight and have more UV-resistant compounds in them. They also have tread patterns optimised for getting off campsite pitches."
https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/artic...
So you are right. No cow manure
PH5121 said:
I need a pair of tyres for my caravan and am struggling to find a supplier who has (or can get) the correct tyre and who will handle wheels with Tyron bands fitted.
My first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
https://www.hometyre.co.uk know what they are doing and have the kit for tyron'sMy first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
DirtyHands said:
https://www.hometyre.co.uk know what they are doing and have the kit for tyron's
Thanks for the tip, I've tried them but unfortunately they don't cover my post code. So the quest for tyres continues! Ordered my wheels and tyres from tyreleader last week and should be here tomorrow.
Was going to go with oponeo for tyres but for only £10 more all from the same source made sense.
Try Oponeo for tyres and then see if a local fit on your drive man can fir them for you. You dont have tk buy and fit from the same company. Most charge £10-20 per tyre/wheel to fit.
Was going to go with oponeo for tyres but for only £10 more all from the same source made sense.
Try Oponeo for tyres and then see if a local fit on your drive man can fir them for you. You dont have tk buy and fit from the same company. Most charge £10-20 per tyre/wheel to fit.
PH5121 said:
I need a pair of tyres for my caravan and am struggling to find a supplier who has (or can get) the correct tyre and who will handle wheels with Tyron bands fitted.
My first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
Maybe I'm being thick but couldn't you buy the tyres from the local company then take them to Kwik Fit to be fitted? My first call was to the tyre company I use for our family cars and work vans, who said that they couldn't get 104 load rated tyres from their suppliers, and would I instead like some 100 rated tyres that they'd had in stock for 4 years for a cheap price.
I declined their kind offer as they are the same age as the tyres I'm replacing due to age, ignoring the fact that they have the wrong load rating.
I then tried Kwik Fit who advertise on their website that their mobile fitters have the equipment to deal with Tyron banded wheels and for a quote ring them up as branches don't do caravan tyres with them.
Great I thought, but unfortunately they don't have any suitable tyres available - but if I keep ringing back I may be lucky as they might get some in (A bizarre way to carry on).
I then tried a tyre company that I've seen as I've driven past in town but never used. They had the tyres I need (yipee!!) but won't do wheels with Tyron bands.
At this point I had a brainwave and asked a car dealer mate who I know has a mate who sells caravans, where his mate gets his tyres from. Armed with this info (never mind they're 20 miles away) I rang them to be told that they can get suitable tyres but their Tyron band tool is broken and they don't know if or when they'll replace it.
So I'm still no further forward. Perhaps I was naive to think getting a pair of cheapo 14 inch tyres would be easy.
Wheels and Tyres fitted on Thursday.
Run up the M1 today.
Such a better ride and sense of stability over the Steel Rims and Michelin CrossClimates.
Quieter and excellent rain / wet ability too.
Instantly, Highly Recommended. Dezent Van Alloys rated at 1350kg per wheel and GT-Radial Maxmiler WT2, full winter, 121 load rated and 10PR (stronger side wall)
£840 delivered and then £80 fitting by our local ex-F1 tyre man!!
Run up the M1 today.
Such a better ride and sense of stability over the Steel Rims and Michelin CrossClimates.
Quieter and excellent rain / wet ability too.
Instantly, Highly Recommended. Dezent Van Alloys rated at 1350kg per wheel and GT-Radial Maxmiler WT2, full winter, 121 load rated and 10PR (stronger side wall)
£840 delivered and then £80 fitting by our local ex-F1 tyre man!!
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