Aston Martin F1 Team

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mikeiow

5,365 posts

130 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Not read the whole thread, & apologies if this is in another thread, but just spotted the virtual launch for their car is this Weds - https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/articles/save-...

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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mikeiow said:
Not read the whole thread, & apologies if this is in another thread, but just spotted the virtual launch for their car is this Weds - https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/articles/save-...
So basically they’ve made an announcement to say that they’re going to make an announcement.

aston80

264 posts

41 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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mat205125 said:
as they've never been on a strong financial footing in the past
They've also never had a billionaire, motor-enthusiast owner in the past.........

aston80

264 posts

41 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Dr Interceptor said:
Imagine...

Aston Martin Racing with Vettel as No. 1 driver and Stroll Snr. backing manage to tempt Toto into the Team Principle role for one season only.
"Aston Martin Racing" is Prodrive....... nothing to do with the F1 team.

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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aston80 said:
mat205125 said:
as they've never been on a strong financial footing in the past
They've also never had a billionaire, motor-enthusiast owner in the past.........
I think you'll find David Brown was a wealthy motor racing enthusiast. wink

millionaire/billionaire is relative because it was 70 years ago



thegreenhell

15,320 posts

219 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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RichB said:
aston80 said:
mat205125 said:
as they've never been on a strong financial footing in the past
They've also never had a billionaire, motor-enthusiast owner in the past.........
I think you'll find David Brown was a wealthy motor racing enthusiast. wink

millionaire/billionaire is relative because it was 70 years ago


Apart from the recent corporate/VC ownership, they've almost only ever had wealthy enthusiast owners. The thing is, at this level even Stroll's billions won't go very far if the company gets into any difficulties. The tie-in with Mercedes is far more significant to them than the boss' bank account.

DaveE87

1,144 posts

135 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Apart from the recent corporate/VC ownership, they've almost only ever had wealthy enthusiast owners. The thing is, at this level even Stroll's billions won't go very far if the company gets into any difficulties. The tie-in with Mercedes is far more significant to them than the boss' bank account.
Would the tie-in with Mercedes have happened without Stroll? Even if it is just in name only, it's great to see the Aston Martin name in F1. If they get a few poles and/or race wins, even better.

ajprice

27,469 posts

196 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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AM say Vettel's driving style and car setup preference isn't as extreme as Perez, and they can get the car to suit him. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/vettels-driving-...

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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ajprice said:
AM say Vettel's driving style and car setup preference isn't as extreme as Perez, and they can get the car to suit him. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/vettels-driving-...
Does this mean that stroll will find it easier to get a race setup.

Gareth1974

3,418 posts

139 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Aston Martin have signed Nico Hulkenberg as a reserve driver.

Wonder if he’ll have replaced Vettel by the end of the season?

Piginapoke

4,759 posts

185 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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I'd have £10 on Vettel not completing the season

95 fiesta si

1,600 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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I think The Hulk would of been a better option then Seb in the first place and they would have saved a nice chunk of change. A 4 time world champion cant come cheap.

Seb seems to have carried on this season where he left off with Ferrari last year, maybe unfair to judge based on one race, but i defo Think Aston Martin getting Hulkenberg in are working on a plan B and lets face it it's not going to be for Stroll is it.

MarkwG

4,848 posts

189 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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DaveE87 said:
thegreenhell said:
Apart from the recent corporate/VC ownership, they've almost only ever had wealthy enthusiast owners. The thing is, at this level even Stroll's billions won't go very far if the company gets into any difficulties. The tie-in with Mercedes is far more significant to them than the boss' bank account.
Would the tie-in with Mercedes have happened without Stroll? Even if it is just in name only, it's great to see the Aston Martin name in F1. If they get a few poles and/or race wins, even better.
I'm pretty sure the links to Daimler/Mercedes predate the Stroll family interest - it goes back 10 years or so.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Piginapoke said:
I'd have £10 on Vettel not completing the season
I bet a tenner that Vettel finds his mojo as soon as Aston Martin get on top of the set up issues.

They'll probably mirror Mercedes and set-up directions will take a similar path. They've already had a migration of staff from Brackley as Mercedes are downsizing for 2022 so that culture and work ethic will find its way into Aston Martin sooner rather than later.

Jonny_

4,128 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Schermerhorn said:
Piginapoke said:
I'd have £10 on Vettel not completing the season
I bet a tenner that Vettel finds his mojo as soon as Aston Martin get on top of the set up issues.

They'll probably mirror Mercedes and set-up directions will take a similar path. They've already had a migration of staff from Brackley as Mercedes are downsizing for 2022 so that culture and work ethic will find its way into Aston Martin sooner rather than later.
I really hope you win your tenner!

It's been an uncomfortable experience to see Seb struggle and blunder his way through the last couple of seasons. Would be a huge shame if his career fizzled out like this; would very much like to see him in a car that suits his driving style rather than frustrating him, and getting back into the battle for podium places.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Schermerhorn said:
I bet a tenner that Vettel finds his mojo as soon as Aston Martin get on top of the set up issues.

They'll probably mirror Mercedes and set-up directions will take a similar path. They've already had a migration of staff from Brackley as Mercedes are downsizing for 2022 so that culture and work ethic will find its way into Aston Martin sooner rather than later.
I'd say this is more likely. Aston and Vettel themselves both said before Bahrain he still wasn't 100% prepared for the season after having problems that further limited their running time during testing. Combine that with just how unlucky he was to get a penalty/have the quali lap ruined by yellows and Sunday was always going to be a long race, especially on a one stop strategy. A lot of people seem to have written him off after one race.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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I always felt that Vettel was there to help sell motor cars and raise the profile of the team not to get results

rdjohn

6,176 posts

195 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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liner33 said:
I always felt that Vettel was there to help sell motor cars and raise the profile of the team not to get results
I think that you can add that he also has to make Lance look good.

Laurence is clearly a genius at brand marketing, but i just see the DBX as the wrong product at the wrong moment in time.

I really do not get Maserati, Ferrari, Lamborghini V8+ Chelsea tractors. The Range Rover still looks like the class act amongst these interlopers.

Piginapoke

4,759 posts

185 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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rdjohn said:
liner33 said:
I always felt that Vettel was there to help sell motor cars and raise the profile of the team not to get results
I think that you can add that he also has to make Lance look good.
I don't think you employ a 4 time WDC with anything other than high hopes!

WantSagaris

236 posts

47 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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Piginapoke said:
I don't think you employ a 4 time WDC with anything other than high hopes!
Lawrence Stroll cares about one thing only in F1 and that's the name Stroll.

Using Aston and Vettel is good PR.