F1 Drivers Petrolheads?

F1 Drivers Petrolheads?

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Angpozzuto

963 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Also I'd imagine many of their rare exotic cars are bought partially as investments.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
Michael Schumacher, I believe, used to use a Fiat people carrier as a daily (although he had some exotica tucked away)
Ricciardo has said he uses the Kadjar quite a bit, guess you can't beat a bit of practicality!

SunsetZed

2,248 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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bobbo89 said:
Killer2005 said:
Jenson Button has/had a decent collection that could put him in petrolhead territory.

You don't get some of these unless you are a bit of a petrolhead.

https://carbuzz.com/features/jenson-button-s-aweso...
Wow, Button seems to have pretty much my exact taste in cars. Not overly fussed about the RR or the Veyron but I'll take them if it means I can have the rest! Even the spec of the 355 is perfect!
Jenson bought his first Ferrari when he signed for Williams, got him a lecture from management funnily enough!

honda_exige

6,022 posts

206 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Paul_M3 said:
Nico Hulkenburg appears to be a Porsche fan. He turned up in a 911 GT2 RS at his stand-in race recently, and his instagram also showed a classic 911 the other day.

Lewis owns a few cars that are clearly outside of his sponsorship arrangements; Pagani Zonda, LaFerrari, Ford Mustang, Shelby Cobra.
Hulkenburg's isn't 'just' a GT2RS. He sent it to Manthey for the £100k Ring record MR kit.

But even thats not enough, its been tuned by a race team he works with to 850bhp.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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honda_exige said:
Paul_M3 said:
Nico Hulkenburg appears to be a Porsche fan. He turned up in a 911 GT2 RS at his stand-in race recently, and his instagram also showed a classic 911 the other day.

Lewis owns a few cars that are clearly outside of his sponsorship arrangements; Pagani Zonda, LaFerrari, Ford Mustang, Shelby Cobra.
Hulkenburg's isn't 'just' a GT2RS. He sent it to Manthey for the £100k Ring record MR kit.

But even thats not enough, its been tuned by a race team he works with to 850bhp.
Nice.

Exige would still have it in the corners smile

honda_exige

6,022 posts

206 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Exige77 said:
Nice.

Exige would still have it in the corners smile
Then on the straights with Honda power hehe

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shirt

22,554 posts

201 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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alesi had a f40. im sure there was a [very] old octane article with him and the car. sold this year to help finance his son's racing career apparently.

lauda was a petrolhead and liked spanking cars across country. iirc he had the last 288gto made for him by old man ferrari.

i think the older generation of drivers were less inclined to have performance cars as they drove more variety on track, knew the foibles and upkeep required of exotica, and didn't get paid enough anyway. the modern set don't get the options outside of their team/formula and have more cash to spend on the 'cool' stuff they yearned for growing up.

thegreenhell

15,320 posts

219 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Killer2005 said:
Jenson Button has/had a decent collection that could put him in petrolhead territory.

You don't get some of these unless you are a bit of a petrolhead.

https://carbuzz.com/features/jenson-button-s-aweso...
Apparently sold most of those now, but he's definitely a real petrolhead, as he talks about in this podcast.

He has a Singer 911 on order, and owns the ex-Fangio Jaguar C-Type and an ex-Moss XK120.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLzX6Lf37Hs

NotBenny

3,917 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Just depends what you define as a petrol head. They've chosen to spend their lives driving the fastest race cars they can, that strikes me as a petrol head thing to do, much more so than what car they choose to pop to the shops in Monaco.

More importantly they are 20 different people, with their own interests and tastes. "they" are into hot hatches, hypercars, off roaders, dirt bikes, old cars, new cars, American cars, Japanese cars, subtle cars, flashy cars, their sponsors/teams cars and also some boring cars.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Schumacher loved his Fiat Stilo estate !!

Allegedly smile

TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Will piston heads / petrol heads need a new term soon?.. the new cars don't use either pistons or petrol smile

Stratovarious

7,723 posts

178 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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thegreenhell said:
(Jenson Button) ... owns the ex-Fangio Jaguar C-Type and an ex-Moss XK120 ...
Perhaps it's just me, but I'd rather historically important cars like these were in a museum where anyone could go and see them, than locked up in some blokes garage.

TheDeuce

21,537 posts

66 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Stratovarious said:
thegreenhell said:
(Jenson Button) ... owns the ex-Fangio Jaguar C-Type and an ex-Moss XK120 ...
Perhaps it's just me, but I'd rather historically important cars like these were in a museum where anyone could go and see them, than locked up in some blokes garage.
Honestly, why not both? The rich F1 driver owns them, but the museum stores and displays them. Such cars are almost exclusively bought as an investment anyway - why store it at home when it can be kept just as warm and dry in a museum? That does already happen, but it should probably be the norm not the exception.

I also categorise such cars as chiefly an investment, not a petrol head purchase. To be a PH purchase the primary reason has to be to drive the car, use it, enjoy it. Being a petrol head means cars are a hobby. It's something you preferentially spend spare money on, not make money from. In the same way an angler buys a £1000 radio controlled bait boat in order to up their game because in their spare time, all they care about is catching a bigger fish than their friends. To hell with the cost. In the same way a petrol head pays the price for their level of automotive obsession.

Years ago I borrowed a V8 M3 for a short while and fell in love with the engine. I'm now casually looking for one to buy as a 'run around and Sunday' car (when the EV is out of juice or Mrs Deuce has taken it out..). I've convinced myself it's a sensible decision as it'll likely gain value and I'll probably put less than 1k a year on it. But secretly, I know that one way or another I'll end up paying for it. It's at best going to simply be less costly to me than some other silly cars I might consider buying. I'm willing to lie to myself (and Mrs Deuce..) about how sensible a purchase it will prove to be because I just want it, it'll make me very happy. That's petrol head logic wink

And yes, if I get it I'll make sure everyone is able to look at it and appreciate it. I'll insist they do.

Stratovarious

7,723 posts

178 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Man-Maths exists in many forms, of which Petrol Head Logic is just one!

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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Stratovarious said:
Perhaps it's just me, but I'd rather historically important cars like these were in a museum where anyone could go and see them, than locked up in some blokes garage.
Privately owned cars such as these are often the ones that end up being prepped for things like Goodwood Festival of Speed etc. Rolling museum pieces, if you will. There are literally hundreds of historically important cars owned privately and kept in better mechanical condition than they are ever likely to be in a museum. It's a nice bonus if they are driven out at occasional events for all to see.

The Brawn F1 car is a good example, one is kept in running condition and fired up once or twice a year to be used in anger at Goodwood etc. If it was shipped off to museum the ability to run it would likely be lost forever (certainly economically).

On a practical level there simply aren't that many museum slots anyway, most have no shortage of stuff to display and look after.


Edited by ch37 on Friday 6th November 00:31

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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ch37 said:
Stratovarious said:
Perhaps it's just me, but I'd rather historically important cars like these were in a museum where anyone could go and see them, than locked up in some blokes garage.
Privately owned cars such as these are often the ones that end up being prepped for things like Goodwood Festival of Speed etc. Rolling museum pieces, if you will. There are literally hundreds of historically important cars owned privately and kept in better mechanical condition than they are ever likely to be in a museum. It's a nice bonus if they are driven out at occasional events for all to see.

The Brawn F1 car is a good example, one is kept in running condition and fired up once or twice a year to be used in anger at Goodwood etc. If it was shipped off to museum the ability to run it would likely be lost forever (certainly economically).

On a practical level there simply aren't that many museum slots anyway, most have no shortage of stuff to display and look after.
yes Ralph Loren has one of the coolest car collections anywhere- he keeps them on plinths for viewing but they're all available for a blat should he feel the need, after which the flies are wiped off and back on the plinth they go. laugh

Ahonen

5,016 posts

279 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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There is one standout in this, a man who only entered one GP: Andre Lotterer. He's a total petrolhead. Anyone who uses a Sport Quattro as his daily driver has to be a proper enthusiast:

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/road/news/2019/1/andr...

He mentions a few of his cars in this interview:

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/goodwo...

DeejRC

5,784 posts

82 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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Er chaps there isn’t a C Type in the world or a vaguely comp spec XK120 that *isnt* thoroughly and comprehensively used hard! That certainly includes both mentioned as I’ve watched them first hand.
Almost everything historic and competition is used these days. The value rises that events such as Goodwood, Silverstone, Spa, etc have driven have simply made it happen. And long may it continue.

Ahonen

5,016 posts

279 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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DeejRC said:
Er chaps there isn’t a C Type in the world or a vaguely comp spec XK120 that *isnt* thoroughly and comprehensively used hard! That certainly includes both mentioned as I’ve watched them first hand.
Almost everything historic and competition is used these days. The value rises that events such as Goodwood, Silverstone, Spa, etc have driven have simply made it happen. And long may it continue.
I think you may have posted in the wrong thread...

thegreenhell

15,320 posts

219 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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Stratovarious said:
thegreenhell said:
(Jenson Button) ... owns the ex-Fangio Jaguar C-Type and an ex-Moss XK120 ...
Perhaps it's just me, but I'd rather historically important cars like these were in a museum where anyone could go and see them, than locked up in some blokes garage.
Museums are like zoos: great for you if you just want to see something with minimum effort, but you only get a tiny fraction of the experience of seeing them out in the wild, and as good as a life prison sentence for the captives.