Discussion
768 said:
I assume it has to be Hulk. I'd put a youngster with him, but Perez has to be in with a shout.
Honestly, after his performance this season (he's not even technically in this season yet is amazingly ahead of six other drivers after just two outings..) I'd think he can do better than a Haas drive. no offense to whoever takes the seats, but they are at best entry level seats - Hulk's been in the sport for 10 years!I'm not his biggest fan by any stretch but he could easily hold his own at a more competitive team against an also experienced team mate. Haas should be looking to scoop up drivers on the way down or potentially talented kids coming in to the sport.
768 said:
Not many other options elsewhere left for Hulk though are there, other than a second year (mostly) out, is the second Red Bull seat still available? Not that that looks likely, but they certainly seem like they could do with the help.
I think he's as likely to take Albon's RB seat as anyone. Also he's on a bit of a press high right now so that will only help RB consider him - being as media driven as they are.There has always been a question mark over how good Hulk really is... It's possible he's only so good, just consistently so - or it's possible he's had bad luck. Interestingly RB can afford to answer that question. They could put literally any driver in that second seat and they will still take 2nd in the WCC next season. If he could, just maybe be great, they can afford to find out.
I can't see a better option personally. If I'm right and they're lining him up for it, I fully expect we will hear all sorts of rumours that he's talking to several other teams ahead of RB announcing he sensationally decided to sign for them. They like to take advantage of media speculation and manipulate it so they get a big story.
maybe as its a north american team and Perez is north american after all.
But maybe that williams rumour is not so far fetched. A williams team free of the ridiculous idea that the metal bashers at williams can invent a good car they may be going the racing point route and sourcing everything possible from mercedes,then filling in the gaps from sneaky means pioneered at tracing point.
This would put them in a solid midfield and appealing to Perez.
Also no williams/head around to hit the ejector seat on a whim at the slightest sniff of progress.
But maybe that williams rumour is not so far fetched. A williams team free of the ridiculous idea that the metal bashers at williams can invent a good car they may be going the racing point route and sourcing everything possible from mercedes,then filling in the gaps from sneaky means pioneered at tracing point.
This would put them in a solid midfield and appealing to Perez.
Also no williams/head around to hit the ejector seat on a whim at the slightest sniff of progress.
Gazzab said:
UnluckyTimmeh said:
Surely Schumacher would go to Alfa as he’s part of the Ferrari driver academy?
Yes and the haas is a Ferrari customer. I was speculating Giovinazzi moving to Haas to make room for Schumacher at Alfa. The rebrand of the team to Alfa in my mind was a statement of intent for it to unofficially be the Ferrari feeder team, making Schumacher going there a more likely bet. Especially given Haas probably isn't such a 'nice' place to work. Seems like a risk putting Schumacher at Haas when Giovinazzi can be punted sideways to there and nobody is probably that fussed about him anyway.
Which isn't a dig at him, he simply seems to be utterly anonymous. Ferrari won't want to risk Schumacher going to Haas and being 'broken' by the environment. I think.
Ferrari doesn't seem to have had much input in who drives for Haas so far. I'm sure they could have an influence, being the engine provider as well as some other IP, but I don't see any reason they'd start doing that now any more than they have in the past.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
kiseca said:
Ferrari doesn't seem to have had much input in who drives for Haas so far. I'm sure they could have an influence, being the engine provider as well as some other IP, but I don't see any reason they'd start doing that now any more than they have in the past.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
But who ran the Alfa team in the first place?As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
kiseca said:
Ferrari doesn't seem to have had much input in who drives for Haas so far. I'm sure they could have an influence, being the engine provider as well as some other IP, but I don't see any reason they'd start doing that now any more than they have in the past.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Ferrari supply engines.As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Haas, like all the smaller teams, needs money due to the drop in revenues in 2020.
Ferrari can therefore place Schumacher at Haas in return for a discount on engines.
It's a similar situation with George Russell at Williams, funded by Mercedes.
The situation at Alfa Romeo is a little more open - it's public knowledge that Ferrari place a driver there, in this year's case Giovinazzi.
LargeRed said:
As long as it's NOT Alonso.
Said to be best the driver ??? ......... but bad career decision maker.
Still can't forgive Alonso for 'holding the pit-box' when Lewis was waiting (behind him) to use it, back when they both drove for McLaren.
That's a little random - Alonso is signed up at Renault/Alpine?Said to be best the driver ??? ......... but bad career decision maker.
Still can't forgive Alonso for 'holding the pit-box' when Lewis was waiting (behind him) to use it, back when they both drove for McLaren.
Muzzer79 said:
kiseca said:
Ferrari doesn't seem to have had much input in who drives for Haas so far. I'm sure they could have an influence, being the engine provider as well as some other IP, but I don't see any reason they'd start doing that now any more than they have in the past.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Ferrari supply engines.As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Haas, like all the smaller teams, needs money due to the drop in revenues in 2020.
Ferrari can therefore place Schumacher at Haas in return for a discount on engines.
It's a similar situation with George Russell at Williams, funded by Mercedes.
The situation at Alfa Romeo is a little more open - it's public knowledge that Ferrari place a driver there, in this year's case Giovinazzi.
kiseca said:
Have Ferrari had any influence over who drives for Haas to date? I know all that you've said is plausible and as I have already said I agree they can influence the driver choices should they want to. Doesn't mean they will, and if they haven't in the past, why change that now? Discount on engines means that Haas get more money but Ferrari get less. They're in the same recession as the rest of us.
They haven't previously, but what has changed now is that Haas have said they need funded drivers, and Ferrari have too many young drivers to place elsewhere, so it kind of fits together with them also being closely aligned on the technical side. Whether they actually will or not is another matter, but the logic is sound.kiseca said:
Muzzer79 said:
kiseca said:
Ferrari doesn't seem to have had much input in who drives for Haas so far. I'm sure they could have an influence, being the engine provider as well as some other IP, but I don't see any reason they'd start doing that now any more than they have in the past.
As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Ferrari supply engines.As far as I can tell, the Haas drivers are decided by Haas and not by Ferrari. Alfa is their b-team... which as an Alfisti, just kills me.
Haas, like all the smaller teams, needs money due to the drop in revenues in 2020.
Ferrari can therefore place Schumacher at Haas in return for a discount on engines.
It's a similar situation with George Russell at Williams, funded by Mercedes.
The situation at Alfa Romeo is a little more open - it's public knowledge that Ferrari place a driver there, in this year's case Giovinazzi.
2. They're hedging their bets. They like Schumacher, but want to give Giovinazzi more time.
3. It's not a huge amount of money to Ferrari in the big scheme of things.
4. Schumacher isn't exactly a slouch - he's leading the F2 championship, so it isn't a big risk for Haas.
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