Haas chose Russia’s Nikita Mazepin
Discussion
TheDeuce said:
vaud said:
I don’t think he is a terrible driver, I think he is over driving an unpredictable car.
He’s no Lewis but nor is he Taki Inoue.
But he's binned it more often than his (also rookie) team mate whilst going more slowly He’s no Lewis but nor is he Taki Inoue.
Can we blame the thoughtless driving on the unpredictable car too..?
I do wonder if the team are demanding that MAZ focuses on simply getting to the end in one piece, so as to not waste any more money on replacement parts for what they openly admit is an uncompetitive car.
Of course, he's still getting mugged off by Schumi Jr. at every race, who generally finishes close to a minute ahead of him, in the same dismal car, having made far fewer errors...
vaud said:
TheDeuce said:
But he's binned it more often than his (also rookie) team mate whilst going more slowly
Can we blame the thoughtless driving on the unpredictable car too..?
I'm willing to give rookies a half season at least.Can we blame the thoughtless driving on the unpredictable car too..?
This stuff needs to stop right away though: https://youtu.be/QIVf61s4DR4 (ignore unsafe release, not his fault..)
Because he can't be putting other drivers at risk routinely whilst we patiently wait half a season to see if he's genuinely useless or not.
Jonny_ said:
TheDeuce said:
vaud said:
I don’t think he is a terrible driver, I think he is over driving an unpredictable car.
He’s no Lewis but nor is he Taki Inoue.
But he's binned it more often than his (also rookie) team mate whilst going more slowly He’s no Lewis but nor is he Taki Inoue.
Can we blame the thoughtless driving on the unpredictable car too..?
I do wonder if the team are demanding that MAZ focuses on simply getting to the end in one piece, so as to not waste any more money on replacement parts for what they openly admit is an uncompetitive car.
Of course, he's still getting mugged off by Schumi Jr. at every race, who generally finishes close to a minute ahead of him, in the same dismal car, having made far fewer errors...
With respect to Vaud's point about giving him a chance, it is possible that by avoiding further crashes or incidents he'll be able to reduce the pressure on himself and perhaps he can then build up his pace incrementally without binning it so often.
vaud said:
entropy said:
Is it normal for rookie drivers to not being able to complete this task around Monaco?
It's not normal. Some drivers have enough mental bandwidth to catch a sight of the tv coverage as they pass.Poor engineer must hate him.
TheDeuce said:
vaud said:
entropy said:
Is it normal for rookie drivers to not being able to complete this task around Monaco?
It's not normal. Some drivers have enough mental bandwidth to catch a sight of the tv coverage as they pass.Poor engineer must hate him.
Shirly they can just stick the thing in a safe mode and send him out to trundle around. He can flip all the switches they like, he'll still be last (unless his teammate has something go wrong again).
I'd think their race weekend would essentially be. Find the settings for least engine and gearbox wear, stick it in that, put numbnuts in the car, wait for the crash/return of the car. Return to base.
I'd think their race weekend would essentially be. Find the settings for least engine and gearbox wear, stick it in that, put numbnuts in the car, wait for the crash/return of the car. Return to base.
I too was optimistic. I didn't really care about his immature and disappointing social media nonsense, I was just keen to see two rookies battle it out in the same car - because let's be honest, the car in question Vs any other car is a bit of a foregone conclusion.
However, it wasn't to be. He was an average to decent F2 driver but you never really know how far a talent will go until it's tested - his seems to fall short of F1. That's not even a criticism, it's just the way of the world.
I wonder what his dad will do if he remains a no hoper in F1? He can obviously afford to continue to pay for the seat but that's not to say he'll want to.
However, it wasn't to be. He was an average to decent F2 driver but you never really know how far a talent will go until it's tested - his seems to fall short of F1. That's not even a criticism, it's just the way of the world.
I wonder what his dad will do if he remains a no hoper in F1? He can obviously afford to continue to pay for the seat but that's not to say he'll want to.
HustleRussell said:
Odd to see all of this criticism now after the first weekend he has basically done better than Mick.
It's less criticism than he had before Besides, do you really rate his Monaco drive as good? Regardless of Mick having a bad weekend. Mazepin was himself way off the pace and the only car issue he had appears to be that he doesn't know how to operate it.
TheDeuce said:
HustleRussell said:
Odd to see all of this criticism now after the first weekend he has basically done better than Mick.
It's less criticism than he had before Besides, do you really rate his Monaco drive as good? Regardless of Mick having a bad weekend. Mazepin was himself way off the pace and the only car issue he had appears to be that he doesn't know how to operate it.
Munter said:
ajprice said:
What happened in the race for him to finish ahead of Mick Schumacher after that first lap overtake Mick did at the hairpin?
I saw elsewhere (but not confirmed) that Mick had a fuel pickup issue so they let Mazepin past rather than hold him up.For me Mick impressed a little simply by getting an overtake done around Monaco in the first instance. That he later had to allow mazepin back past and then nurse his car home is unfortunate, but doesn't on merit change my mind about mazepin's talent in an F1 car.
Is there any reason whatsoever to imagine that without the PU issue Mick wouldn't have stayed ahead as per normal..?
HustleRussell said:
TheDeuce said:
HustleRussell said:
Odd to see all of this criticism now after the first weekend he has basically done better than Mick.
It's less criticism than he had before Besides, do you really rate his Monaco drive as good? Regardless of Mick having a bad weekend. Mazepin was himself way off the pace and the only car issue he had appears to be that he doesn't know how to operate it.
The record will show mazepin was 'better' if you like. Kinda meaningless in the context of his genuine performance as a driver though.
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