Haas chose Russiaโ€™s Nikita Mazepin

Haas chose Russiaโ€™s Nikita Mazepin

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Siao

97 posts

6 months

Monday 7th June
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How did he get ahead of Mick in the first place? I thought he was a lap down?

AJB88

7,743 posts

137 months

Monday 7th June
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I wondered this as well.

MartG

18,009 posts

170 months

Monday 7th June
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Siao said:
How did he get ahead of Mick in the first place? I thought he was a lap down?
Got his lap back during the safety car period

DanielSan

16,243 posts

133 months

Monday 7th June
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Siao said:
How did he get ahead of Mick in the first place? I thought he was a lap down?
Hr was allowed to do a lap on his own before the race started to unhappy himself then got past Mick on the first lap when the traffic jam was happening through turn 4 or 5 I think it was.

Siao

97 posts

6 months

Monday 7th June
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Ah, thank you both. Well he did finish ahead of Lewis AND Max, so there's that!!

HustleRussell

19,426 posts

126 months

Monday 7th June
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AJB88 said:
I’m flabbergasted by that, he’s trying to cause a helicopter accident.

AJB88

7,743 posts

137 months

Monday 7th June
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HustleRussell said:
I’m flabbergasted by that, he’s trying to cause a helicopter accident.
Team will do nothing about it at all, the sooner Mick is out of HAAS the better.

J210

3,055 posts

149 months

Monday 7th June
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Hats off too Mazepin. Beat Hamilton yesterday..............





Catatafish

1,147 posts

111 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Should get a race ban for a jink like that

Jasandjules

66,165 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th June
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HustleRussell said:
I’m flabbergasted by that, he’s trying to cause a helicopter accident.
Utterly life threatening IMHO, those speeds are what, 200mph?



TheDeuce

9,586 posts

32 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Jasandjules said:
HustleRussell said:
I’m flabbergasted by that, he’s trying to cause a helicopter accident.
Utterly life threatening IMHO, those speeds are what, 200mph?
I suppose we should in theory wait for Mazepin's take on why he twitched.. But it's so far from the first time he's been dangerous and we're only 6 races in!

Said it from the start, he's just not F1 material. I get that he's 'fast' in F2 terms, on his day... but fast in terms of F1 requires a driver to be able to operate at 200mph and have some mental capacity retained for things such as strategy, safety, forward planning the next section or maneuver, talking to their engineer. He simply doesn't seem to extend far enough to do all that. He literally either drives way off the pace and is sort of ok-ish, or approaches Mick's pace and becomes lethal as a result.

It isn't even a criticism, it's just an observation. I do think the FIA could do with observing the same before someone gets hurt.

DanielSan

16,243 posts

133 months

Tuesday 8th June
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TheDeuce said:
I suppose we should in theory wait for Mazepin's take on why he twitched.. But it's so far from the first time he's been dangerous and we're only 6 races in!

Said it from the start, he's just not F1 material. I get that he's 'fast' in F2 terms, on his day... but fast in terms of F1 requires a driver to be able to operate at 200mph and have some mental capacity retained for things such as strategy, safety, forward planning the next section or maneuver, talking to their engineer. He simply doesn't seem to extend far enough to do all that. He literally either drives way off the pace and is sort of ok-ish, or approaches Mick's pace and becomes lethal as a result.

It isn't even a criticism, it's just an observation. I do think the FIA could do with observing the same before someone gets hurt.
As much as he is a tool on track at times, Mercedes were genuinely impressed with his pace when he did that test a while back in their car. He does have genuine speed but it seems that he's either overdriving what is a st car this season, or while Mazepin isn't all that great, maybe Mick in an F1 car is also really really good.

TheDeuce

9,586 posts

32 months

Tuesday 8th June
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DanielSan said:
TheDeuce said:
I suppose we should in theory wait for Mazepin's take on why he twitched.. But it's so far from the first time he's been dangerous and we're only 6 races in!

Said it from the start, he's just not F1 material. I get that he's 'fast' in F2 terms, on his day... but fast in terms of F1 requires a driver to be able to operate at 200mph and have some mental capacity retained for things such as strategy, safety, forward planning the next section or maneuver, talking to their engineer. He simply doesn't seem to extend far enough to do all that. He literally either drives way off the pace and is sort of ok-ish, or approaches Mick's pace and becomes lethal as a result.

It isn't even a criticism, it's just an observation. I do think the FIA could do with observing the same before someone gets hurt.
As much as he is a tool on track at times, Mercedes were genuinely impressed with his pace when he did that test a while back in their car. He does have genuine speed but it seems that he's either overdriving what is a st car this season, or while Mazepin isn't all that great, maybe Mick in an F1 car is also really really good.
He's got speed - just not composure, consistency nor focus. Don't get me started on his Mercedes testing! He had several hundred laps testing for mercedes all over the world before entering F1 proper, and still he gets shown up by his rookie team mate who had nothing like the same practice.

He's just not F1 material. Everything he's done, or failed to do since arriving in F1 points to that.

Teddy Lop

5,199 posts

33 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Was his jink any bigger than bottas at imola?

TheDeuce

9,586 posts

32 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Teddy Lop said:
Was his jink any bigger than bottas at imola?
It's the intent surely? Not the extent. Although to me both look about the same, approx half a cars width of jink.

Mazepin was moving across the track already in what looked to me a manner which suggests he was aware Mick was approaching - and I'd expect his engineer would have let him know his own team mate was within striking distance.. if so then for both their sales he should have been actively avoiding anything that could trigger a contact at such speeds.

We can't say for certain if it was a fault this time, or any of the other endless incidents so far this season where he's pissed off other drivers by creating potentially very dangerous situations. But if only a third of such occasions were 'his fault' then he'd rightfully have earned his reputation as chief F1 bellend..

2fast748

790 posts

161 months

Friday 11th June
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Mazepin and military service:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mazepin-clarifie...

Sounds like a well educated chap! Usual caveats of money/education/Eton/etc....

Siao

97 posts

6 months

Friday 11th June
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He does like to use the wall, going back to the F2 days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcmlNYR6nQ&ab...

Jasandjules

66,165 posts

195 months

Friday 11th June
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Siao said:
He does like to use the wall, going back to the F2 days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcmlNYR6nQ&ab...
Wow. Just wow. Not fit to drive a pedal car it seems let alone a single seat race car.

Siao

97 posts

6 months

Friday 11th June
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Jasandjules said:
Siao said:
He does like to use the wall, going back to the F2 days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcmlNYR6nQ&ab...
Wow. Just wow. Not fit to drive a pedal car it seems let alone a single seat race car.
Apparently it happens a lot in the lower categories. Not an excuse, but it does

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Friday 11th June
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Siao said:
Jasandjules said:
Siao said:
He does like to use the wall, going back to the F2 days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcmlNYR6nQ&ab...
Wow. Just wow. Not fit to drive a pedal car it seems let alone a single seat race car.
Apparently it happens a lot in the lower categories. Not an excuse, but it does
Not to that extent, it doesn’t. Why would someone single him out to make a compilation video last year? He departed F2 with 11 points on his race licence.