Haas chose Russia’s Nikita Mazepin
Discussion
StevieBee said:
Wasn't there some Israeli bloke who drove for Minardi who was something like 12 seconds a lap off the pace of the next slowest car?
Others I can think of would include Giovanna Amati, Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong - I'm sure there's been many others.
Yep, the 107% rule was bought in for good reasons. Mazepin isn’t even close, his qualifying time last weekend was something like 102.3%. It’s actually a testament to F1 that we notice him as being so slow, by historical standards he really isn’t that bad at all. Others I can think of would include Giovanna Amati, Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong - I'm sure there's been many others.
StevieBee said:
Wasn't there some Israeli bloke who drove for Minardi who was something like 12 seconds a lap off the pace of the next slowest car?
Others I can think of would include Giovanna Amati, Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong - I'm sure there's been many others.
He was okay in the Formula 2000 Hungarian National Championship Others I can think of would include Giovanna Amati, Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong - I'm sure there's been many others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanoch_Nissany
I think there's a little hyperbole around him at the moment.
Yes the guy's a prick. No he's not the next Hamilton or Vertappen but he finished in a respectable position in F2 even if it wasn't through respectable driving.
He's basically a less likeable version of Dan Ticktum, if such a thing exists.
Is his percentage gap to is team-mate worse than Ricciardo's to Norris? Bottas' to Hamilton's? Whoever Red Bull shoe into the other seat v's Verstappen?
Don't answer that come to think of it-I don't really care. I do care if he does something stupid who puts someone else at risk but he's yet to do that. Let him get on with it.
(no I haven't been scared by the Ruski Mafia into typing this. Just don't touch my front door knob eh?)
Yes the guy's a prick. No he's not the next Hamilton or Vertappen but he finished in a respectable position in F2 even if it wasn't through respectable driving.
He's basically a less likeable version of Dan Ticktum, if such a thing exists.
Is his percentage gap to is team-mate worse than Ricciardo's to Norris? Bottas' to Hamilton's? Whoever Red Bull shoe into the other seat v's Verstappen?
Don't answer that come to think of it-I don't really care. I do care if he does something stupid who puts someone else at risk but he's yet to do that. Let him get on with it.
(no I haven't been scared by the Ruski Mafia into typing this. Just don't touch my front door knob eh?)
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I think there's a little hyperbole around him at the moment.
Yes the guy's a prick. No he's not the next Hamilton or Vertappen but he finished in a respectable position in F2 even if it wasn't through respectable driving.
He's basically a less likeable version of Dan Ticktum, if such a thing exists.
Is his percentage gap to is team-mate worse than Ricciardo's to Norris? Bottas' to Hamilton's? Whoever Red Bull shoe into the other seat v's Verstappen?
Don't answer that come to think of it-I don't really care. I do care if he does something stupid who puts someone else at risk but he's yet to do that. Let him get on with it.
(no I haven't been scared by the Ruski Mafia into typing this. Just don't touch my front door knob eh?)
He was ok in F2, not anything special. Did he do anything in F2 to suggest he could and should be an F1 driver?Yes the guy's a prick. No he's not the next Hamilton or Vertappen but he finished in a respectable position in F2 even if it wasn't through respectable driving.
He's basically a less likeable version of Dan Ticktum, if such a thing exists.
Is his percentage gap to is team-mate worse than Ricciardo's to Norris? Bottas' to Hamilton's? Whoever Red Bull shoe into the other seat v's Verstappen?
Don't answer that come to think of it-I don't really care. I do care if he does something stupid who puts someone else at risk but he's yet to do that. Let him get on with it.
(no I haven't been scared by the Ruski Mafia into typing this. Just don't touch my front door knob eh?)
The comparison to MS isn't really the whole story either. in some sessions it's true that he's not massively behind, but as he approaches MS level of pace, his own likelihood of making some sort of mistake seems to increase exponentially. Which is best, being a second a lap down on your team mate, or half a second a lap down but spinning every 30 laps..?
Then there is the fact that he's had far more time driving F1 cars than MS, hundreds of hours more - he should be at least on a par with MS initially because of that benefit.
To me it looks like the ceiling of his talent is simply a little to low to be a competitive (and perhaps suitably safe) F1 driver. That's not to take away from the fact he is a talented racing driver in general - but F1 is a step up and not all talented racing drivers have what it takes to make that step.
HustleRussell said:
With the spins and especially with the race pace, I’m beginning to wonder if Haas are going to find something wrong on Mazepin’s car. I was expecting him to run Mick close or possibly beat him in the early part of the season.
Really were you? I think you are in a small minority there who expected anything out of Mazespin other than being a mobile chicanegeeks said:
HustleRussell said:
With the spins and especially with the race pace, I’m beginning to wonder if Haas are going to find something wrong on Mazepin’s car. I was expecting him to run Mick close or possibly beat him in the early part of the season.
Really were you? I think you are in a small minority there who expected anything out of Mazespin other than being a mobile chicanegeeks said:
HustleRussell said:
With the spins and especially with the race pace, I’m beginning to wonder if Haas are going to find something wrong on Mazepin’s car. I was expecting him to run Mick close or possibly beat him in the early part of the season.
Really were you? I think you are in a small minority there who expected anything out of Mazespin other than being a mobile chicaneLaurasOtherHalf said:
Another week, another penalty point.
Plus a three place grid penalty.
From 20th to... 20th. I know the silly 30 place penalties don't happen anymore, but if a grid drop doesn't make a difference they should have a time penalty applied in the race or a pit lane start.Plus a three place grid penalty.
ajprice said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Another week, another penalty point.
Plus a three place grid penalty.
From 20th to... 20th. I know the silly 30 place penalties don't happen anymore, but if a grid drop doesn't make a difference they should have a time penalty applied in the race or a pit lane start.Plus a three place grid penalty.
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