Favourite F1 cars 1980 onwards

[FourWheelDrift]

DoubleD said:

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.

The ones that let him leave the pitlane during a red flag.

[F1GTRUeno]

https://youtu.be/dUyXHG55xQ8

Comas wanted to do the same for Senna as he did first but realised he couldn’t do anything about it.

Was a moment of madness in an incident of madness but came from a good place.

[DoubleD]

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.

The ones that let him leave the pitlane during a red flag.

Oh ok, I don't think I saw a red flag? I saw a yellow one as the accident was happening. When you say him do you mean Senna? He would have left the pit lane before the accident started.

[FourWheelDrift]

DoubleD said:

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.

The ones that let him leave the pitlane during a red flag.

Oh ok, I don't think I saw a red flag? I saw a yellow one as the accident was happening. When you say him do you mean Senna? He would have left the pit lane before the accident started.

Oh hang on that's Spa, I thought it was about San Marino 94, the marshals shouldn't have let Comas out the pits there. Sorry.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

I'm not convinced it's entirely clear what happened with Comas at Imola '94. He's only spoke about it once and it was an obviously emotional moment for him without even considering he finished his F1 career because of it.

I'm not sure whether he was let out be accident as he was trying to rejoin an obviously stopped race or if it was because he wanted to get to Senna. If anyone has a link to anything authoritative I'd love to see it.

[DoubleD]

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.

The ones that let him leave the pitlane during a red flag.

Oh ok, I don't think I saw a red flag? I saw a yellow one as the accident was happening. When you say him do you mean Senna? He would have left the pit lane before the accident started.

Oh hang on that's Spa, I thought it was about San Marino 94, the marshals shouldn't have let Comas out the pits there. Sorry.

I'm still confused, why shouldn't they have let Comas out the pits? He was on a flying lap so would have been on his 2nd lap out of the pits?

[Piginapoke]

DoubleD said:

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

FourWheelDrift said:

DoubleD said:

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.

The ones that let him leave the pitlane during a red flag.

Oh ok, I don't think I saw a red flag? I saw a yellow one as the accident was happening. When you say him do you mean Senna? He would have left the pit lane before the accident started.

Oh hang on that's Spa, I thought it was about San Marino 94, the marshals shouldn't have let Comas out the pits there. Sorry.

I'm still confused, why shouldn't they have let Comas out the pits? He was on a flying lap so would have been on his 2nd lap out of the pits?

There was a red flag after Senna's accident.

[DoubleD]

Ahhhh I see now, you are talking about a different clip.....carry on as you were.

[DBSV8]

TwentyFive said:

presenter Mike Brewer (better known for Wheeler Dealers) also drove the F1 car on the same day.

Mike Brewer could fit in an F1 car ..

[Teppic]

DBSV8 said:

TwentyFive said:

presenter Mike Brewer (better known for Wheeler Dealers) also drove the F1 car on the same day.

Mike Brewer could fit in an F1 car ..

Only if it were Mansell's McLaren MP4-10...

[thiscocks]

F1GTRUeno said:

https://youtu.be/dUyXHG55xQ8

Comas wanted to do the same for Senna as he did first but realised he couldn’t do anything about it.

Was a moment of madness in an incident of madness but came from a good place.

Mmmmm. My estimation of him just went down when he said it would have been the decent thing for Williams to retire the second car at Imola. As if that would have changed anything. Judging by his reactions I dont think he would have been a driver in the 60's and 70's.

[thiscocks]

TwentyFive said:

I loved the simplicity of the 1993 Sauber C12.

Had the V10 Illmor branded Mercedes unit in the back and was driven by Wendlinger and Lehto.

Yes very nice uncluttered livery and nice shape. The 93 Larrouse looked similarly nice when it had less sponsors on early season:



and the pre season 1994 car looked even better:



alas the one that made the track wasnt as nice. The short lived Kronenburg livery was quite cool though.

[Piginapoke]

Always liked the Larrouse livery - I don't even mind the Kronenberg one .

A couple more from me. The Benetton B190 was the last pretty car they made before going down the raised nose route with the B191. Such a nice car, shame about its replacement:



Also, the FW11B. Looked so good compared to the MP4/3 which was just so wrong to my eye; it's peak turbo to me. First time I saw one, I was struck by how tiny it was. 1,200hp in qualifying, 540kgs. Gulp.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Agreed on both points pig.

[coppice]

The 89/90 Larousse Lamborghini was a lovely looking car , but I remember it for its simply wonderful V12 howl . Lower pitched than the almost hysterical Ferrari V12 , and like many NA F1engines , going through a whole orchestra's worth of pitches and notes.

Here's an abject failure the Life L190 , with the W12 which struggled to pull skin from rice pudding . I love it , as it evokes an era when F1 wasn't the virtual spec formula it has become , had much bigger grids and when anybody could rock up and have a crack at pre qualifying .

[blackmme]

coppice said:

The 89/90 Larousse Lamborghini was a lovely looking car , but I remember it for its simply wonderful V12 howl . Lower pitched than the almost hysterical Ferrari V12 , and like many NA F1engines , going through a whole orchestra's worth of pitches and notes.

Here's an abject failure the Life L190 , with the W12 which struggled to pull skin from rice pudding . I love it , as it evokes an era when F1 wasn't the virtual spec formula it has become , had much bigger grids and when anybody could rock up and have a crack at pre qualifying .

Bloody hell there’s a picture of it moving!

[coppice]

I've seen it move myself - not terribly quickly. I reckon an FF2000 would have been faster. But hey ho , they at least tried - gutter and stars stuff

[blackmme]

I always liked Gustav Brunner’s designs. I think he’s a designer who always added an element of aesthetics to function.
For some reason I have a soft spot in particular for the Ram 03.
You can see a resemblance to the Indy Car he then did for Ferrari and elements of that design that were carried over to the F187 already featured in this topic.

Edited by blackmme on Saturday 30th January 10:32

[FourWheelDrift]

blackmme said:

coppice said:

The 89/90 Larousse Lamborghini was a lovely looking car , but I remember it for its simply wonderful V12 howl . Lower pitched than the almost hysterical Ferrari V12 , and like many NA F1engines , going through a whole orchestra's worth of pitches and notes.

Here's an abject failure the Life L190 , with the W12 which struggled to pull skin from rice pudding . I love it , as it evokes an era when F1 wasn't the virtual spec formula it has become , had much bigger grids and when anybody could rock up and have a crack at pre qualifying .

Bloody hell there’s a picture of it moving!

Hence the expression, "There's Life in the old dog yet."

[Dermot O'Logical]

FourWheelDrift said:

blackmme said:

coppice said:

The 89/90 Larousse Lamborghini was a lovely looking car , but I remember it for its simply wonderful V12 howl . Lower pitched than the almost hysterical Ferrari V12 , and like many NA F1engines , going through a whole orchestra's worth of pitches and notes.

Here's an abject failure the Life L190 , with the W12 which struggled to pull skin from rice pudding . I love it , as it evokes an era when F1 wasn't the virtual spec formula it has become , had much bigger grids and when anybody could rock up and have a crack at pre qualifying .

Bloody hell there’s a picture of it moving!

Hence the expression, "There's Life in the old dog yet."

Along with a couple of friends I would regularly go to SIlverstone on the Friday of British Grand Prix weekends during the days when there were so many entries that they had to run a "pre-Qualifying" session, which started around 8.30am, hence it became known as "The Wide-Awake Club", which I believe was the name of a popular childrens tv programme. Anyway. I must be one of the few people who actually saw the Life (driven, I believe, by Bruno Giacomelli) complete an entire lap.

It didn't complete a second lap, obviously.