2021 F1 cars thread

[Deesee]

At least theres some great memes coming out of this..

Hass directors meeting

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/lxys...

[Mark-C]

KR158 said:

I've just stumbled across this on the 8uto5p0rt Forum, "Apparently" this is the new Williams Livery.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/lxkajn/...

I dearly hope it isn't, it's just, well..............Awful

I don't really care what colour they paint it if it's quicker than last years car ,,, I suspect that may be too much to hope for!

[angrymoby]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

It's pretty blatant.

Indeed

& if it as Gunther says about the colours & that HAAS is Amercian, then he wont complain swapping the red & blue around so it doesn't blatantly display a Russian flag

[TheDeuce]

angrymoby said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

It's pretty blatant.

Indeed

& if it as Gunther says about the colours & that HAAS is Amercian, then he wont complain swapping the red & blue around so it doesn't blatantly display a Russian flag

It's certainly blatant but what rules does it actually break?

[mw88]

KR158 said:

I've just stumbled across this on the 8uto5p0rt Forum, "Apparently" this is the new Williams Livery.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/lxkajn/...

I dearly hope it isn't, it's just, well..............Awful

Looks like a piss poor attempt at photoshop, I would have hoped Williams would have a proper render, rather than something that looks like they've used the brush tool.

[angrymoby]

TheDeuce said:

angrymoby said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

It's pretty blatant.

Indeed

& if it as Gunther says about the colours & that HAAS is Amercian, then he wont complain swapping the red & blue around so it doesn't blatantly display a Russian flag

It's certainly blatant but what rules does it actually break?

"[athletes] shall not display publicly […] any national emblem or other national symbol of the Russian Federation, including without limitation, on their clothes, equipment or other personal items."

[TheDeuce]

angrymoby said:

TheDeuce said:

angrymoby said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

It's pretty blatant.

Indeed

& if it as Gunther says about the colours & that HAAS is Amercian, then he wont complain swapping the red & blue around so it doesn't blatantly display a Russian flag

It's certainly blatant but what rules does it actually break?

"[athletes] shall not display publicly […] any national emblem or other national symbol of the Russian Federation, including without limitation, on their clothes, equipment or other personal items."

But they haven't have they? What is displayed is extremely similar to the Russian flag. But also arguably legitimised by the fact it's even more similar to the brand that's paying or it to be there

[angrymoby]

TheDeuce said:

But they haven't have they? What is displayed is extremely similar to the Russian flag. But also arguably legitimised by the fact it's even more similar to the brand that's paying or it to be there

the engine cover has a Russian flag (in order white/blue/red of equal width) at 45 degrees

the Uralkali logo is (or was until very recently, so recent that they haven't even updated their main website) green & red

[thegreenhell]

TheDeuce said:

But they haven't have they? What is displayed is extremely similar to the Russian flag. But also arguably legitimised by the fact it's even more similar to the brand that's paying or it to be there

That's why they're looking into it. They haven't yet said that they have or have not done something that would be against the rules, just the reason why it's being looked at.

It will be interesting to see, though, where they draw the line between nationalism and commerce.

[andburg]

Of jeez the williams looks awful

they've gone high rake in the pics at least, sidepods are large the central body is like a water barrell cut in half.

[DanielSan]

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That might look better in person but I doubt it, it looks like it was designed in the F1 2020 game! More shocking how few sponsors they have than anything else.

[andburg]

I knew i recognised it from somewhere

[patmahe]

Looks pretty generic to me like a car in a racing game that couldn't actually call itself an F1 car because the maker didn't have the rights if that makes sense.

Consider some of the lookers on the grid this year, it's going to be hard for that to stand out but I wish them well, would be nice to see George able to genuinely compete for points on a regular basis.

[anonymous-user]

patmahe said:

Looks pretty generic to me like a car in a racing game that couldn't actually call itself an F1 car because the maker didn't have the rights if that makes sense.

Consider some of the lookers on the grid this year, it's going to be hard for that to stand out but I wish them well, would be nice to see George able to genuinely compete for points on a regular basis.

I agree, still it looks ok to me and all the cars look pretty different. Overall a good looking grid. Look forwards to seeing them sandbagging and doing silly fast laps in testing.

[ajprice]

At least there's no Rich Energy on the Williams. It does look a bit Racing Game Livery no.3 though.

[anonymous-user]

If that Williams goes as well as it looks...

[ajprice]

Haas v Williams 2021. Haas with the minimum effort 2020 car and supposedly better Ferrari engine. Williams first full season with the new guys in charge. Place bets now!!

[DanielSan]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

If that Williams goes as well as it looks...

I know the rule about if it looks fast it is fast is mostly a bullst, but you may be right.

[TheDeuce]

angrymoby said:

TheDeuce said:

But they haven't have they? What is displayed is extremely similar to the Russian flag. But also arguably legitimised by the fact it's even more similar to the brand that's paying or it to be there

the engine cover has a Russian flag (in order white/blue/red of equal width) at 45 degrees

the Uralkali logo is (or was until very recently, so recent that they haven't even updated their main website) green & red

I'm aware that very recently changing their logo to look like the flag, for the sake of having the flag on the car when they're not allowed to is VERY underhanded. However, whatever their true motivation, as a sponsor it's up to them what logo they use on the car. It can't be disproven that it's their logo if they say that it is.

Naturally, it would be a good idea if they changed it on their website too! Just for the sake of making the their manipulation of the rules a little less blatant...

Certainly no shortage of drama surrounding Mazepin jnr as he slithers awkwardly in to F1!

[thegreenhell]

TheDeuce said:

I'm aware that very recently changing their logo to look like the flag, for the sake of having the flag on the car when they're not allowed to is VERY underhanded. However, whatever their true motivation, as a sponsor it's up to them what logo they use on the car. It can't be disproven that it's their logo if they say that it is.

Naturally, it would be a good idea if they changed it on their website too! Just for the sake of making the their manipulation of the rules a little less blatant...

Certainly no shortage of drama surrounding Mazepin jnr as he slithers awkwardly in to F1!

It's up to them only within the rules that are applied. The FIA are signed up to the WADA agreement, so ultimately it's their call whether it breaks any rules or not. They've stopped a whole nation from competing at the Olympics, so I don't think they'll have any trouble stopping one team from running the banned flag on their car if that's what they choose to do.