Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)
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There needs to be an incentive of a higher formula drive for the winner of Formula W.
Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
Bright Halo said:
There needs to be an incentive of a higher formula drive for the winner of Formula W.
Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
Jamie Chadwick had intended to run in the main F3 series this year, however, her speed in the winter series meant that she wasn't able to do that.Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
Bright Halo said:
There needs to be an incentive of a higher formula drive for the winner of Formula W.
Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
The prize was half a million somethings, can’t remember if it were £, €, or $. That should be a fair chunk of change towards either a European F3 or FIA F3 drive. Jamie Chadwick won last year and what does she get? The opportunity to do it all again this year!
I thought the whole idea was to give women a fair chance of progression up the formula ladder, hardly seems to be happening though.
The aim has to be to get more women into the formula ladder, although maybe it’s a longer term project that starts with using the exposure to get more girls Karting?
Oh, and if WS are going to support F1, at least let Sky cover the races, or put extended highlights somewhere where people might find them. There’s three minutes of highlights of race 1 on YouTube, uploaded the day after the race and currently on 7,000 views. Which is a shame given all the effort put in, and it does look like it was actually quite a good race.
Sandpit Steve said:
Oh, and if WS are going to support F1, at least let Sky cover the races, or put extended highlights somewhere where people might find them. There’s three minutes of highlights of race 1 on YouTube, uploaded the day after the race and currently on 7,000 views. Which is a shame given all the effort put in, and it does look like it was actually quite a good race.
That's the sort of elitism they're fighting against. If they're trying to encourage more young females then it needs to reach as many eyes as possible, not be stuck on a niche, predominantly, male subscription channel. It was live on More4, free to air, with another highlights show on the same channel today. Both shows are available free and in full on catch-up.df76 said:
Flooble said:
df76 said:
Jamie Chadwick had intended to run in the main F3 series this year, however, her speed in the winter series meant that she wasn't able to do that.
Too fast or too slow?Money Contacts, Talent in that order. Got those sex doesn't even come into it. Infact if you have the 3 of them being a female would be an advantage in f1.
thegreenhell said:
That's the sort of elitism they're fighting against. If they're trying to encourage more young females then it needs to reach as many eyes as possible, not be stuck on a niche, predominantly, male subscription channel. It was live on More4, free to air, with another highlights show on the same channel today. Both shows are available free and in full on catch-up.
Surely it's the reality they are fighting against! 
If they were that good surely they would get a drive in F1 on ability?
Where is the "bloke only" formula? Or does "equality" still only work one way?
Why not have a rule that F2/F3 must have 20% female drivers. Do it as a test for a few seasons and tell everyone this. Gives female drivers the chance to prove themselves.
We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
vulture1 said:
df76 said:
Flooble said:
df76 said:
Jamie Chadwick had intended to run in the main F3 series this year, however, her speed in the winter series meant that she wasn't able to do that.
Too fast or too slow?Money Contacts, Talent in that order. Got those sex doesn't even come into it. Infact if you have the 3 of them being a female would be an advantage in f1.
hole - they'd still sign a black female driver if they were convinced they were the driver most likely to bring them results, providing as you say, the £££ etc works out too.At the time FW launched I recall the idea was for it to sit roughly parallel to F3, with the victors hopefully going to F2. This demonstrates that they're gonna struggle even to get in to F3, which is supposedly the same level sport in any case!
In fairness the series is supposed to inspire girls to start karting younger, so I guess we have to wait another decade yet to see the results of that theory when such inspired girls eventually reach FW.. I'm hopeful but not exactly expectant that it's going to work. And if it doesn't, it's been an epically disappointing experiment.
McLarenarama said:
Why not have a rule that F2/F3 must have 20% female drivers. Do it as a test for a few seasons and tell everyone this. Gives female drivers the chance to prove themselves.
We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
I'm not sure if you are being serious or not with such a ridiculous and ludicrous comment?We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
They are not just as good. Most have terrible racing records. Look them up online most are woeful.
Once you have the money (in life) to get through karting or to begin in a lower series money isn't as much of an issue afterwards as everyone is pretty well off, and the playing field turns to contacts and talent with a bigger weighting to talent.
Apart from the mega mega rich billionaire drivers most of the f1 and high end motorsport grid through their racing career are top 3 in each series they came up through with an odd championship win.
examples below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Moore_(racing_... her brother was a British champ and far better driver see below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Moore_(racing_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Chadwick
Jamie arguably the best of them but as discussed above not quick enough for f3.
Susie wolff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Wolff
Abysmal record
These represent some of the best young talent to offer.
As a series to get more young girls interested in motorsport I am all for it.
As a motorsports fan i want them to earn it all the way up through the right series regardless of sex.
I watched alot of the super 1 karting the past few years and Abby Pulling showed real promise she beat the boys hands down nearly doing the tripple and having a 2nd overall followed by championship winner twice in a row.
However her career looks uncertain now.
McLarenarama said:
Why not have a rule that F2/F3 must have 20% female drivers. Do it as a test for a few seasons and tell everyone this. Gives female drivers the chance to prove themselves.
We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
They (and by extension all female racers) would be resented by every racer who didn't get a seat, and with derision and resentment by most the fans, and be made a laughing stock that'd set back "the cause"We all know they are just as good, but most don't participate in racing from a very young age like Lewis/Nico karting for example. Does this mean they need a few years to refine their abilities? Perhaps do the same at the lower levels?? But are there any/enough girls who want to be a racing driver at 6 years old?
The seats are there for anyone with the talent and backing to take them, and women already have an upper hand in the latter these days.
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