Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

[Bright Halo]

andburg said:

and shes signed for Andretti in Indy lights

Big pressure year for her, after 3 years of success shes back in it with the guys.

Good luck to her. Hope she smashes it (you know what I mean)

[Castellet]

Interesting and largely positive move, I would have thought.

Presumably a 2 year programme. Learn the car, circuits, US race culture, etc in year one, with the aim to be a front-runner year two.

[ch37]

Castellet said:

Interesting and largely positive move, I would have thought.

Presumably a 2 year programme. Learn the car, circuits, US race culture, etc in year one, with the aim to be a front-runner year two.

That won't stop plenty of high flying male Internet warriors getting on her back after two rounds.

[LukeBrown66]

America is the place to be for many aspiring racers, they are well paid out there, far more so than in Europe, and if she struggled with Indy car I am sure she will find a home in IMSA,

I am not expecting her to set the world alight over there, but the level in Indycar is nowhere near that in top level world single seaters, but it is a lot to learn, so give her time and i hope she can show she is good enough for that level and maybe that also means she has seat time in bigger, powerful xars to get used to that and show some f1 teams her pace to gain a test role or something.

I find it pathetic actually teat Williams never gave her a run despite being supposedly a young driver for them

[andyA700]

ch37 said:

Castellet said:

Interesting and largely positive move, I would have thought.

Presumably a 2 year programme. Learn the car, circuits, US race culture, etc in year one, with the aim to be a front-runner year two.

That won't stop plenty of high flying male Internet warriors getting on her back after two rounds.

I just want to say, it isn't F1 or anything close. The Indycars have 650bhp against 1000bhp of the Merdedes F1 car. There are still people competing in Indycar who competed in F1 decades ago, how would they do in F1 today? Juan Pablo Montoya, Takuma Sato.

https://honda.racing/indy-car-series/post/drivers-...

[thegreenhell]

andyA700 said:

I just want to say, it isn't F1 or anything close. The Indycars have 650bhp against 1000bhp of the Merdedes F1 car. There are still people competing in Indycar who competed in F1 decades ago, how would they do in F1 today? Juan Pablo Montoya, Takuma Sato.

https://honda.racing/indy-car-series/post/drivers-...

It's Indy Lights, not Indycar. It's the feeder series into Indycar. 450-ish hp, so still a good step up from W Series.

[JoelH]

andyA700 said:

I just want to say, it isn't F1 or anything close. The Indycars have 650bhp against 1000bhp of the Merdedes F1 car. There are still people competing in Indycar who competed in F1 decades ago, how would they do in F1 today? Juan Pablo Montoya, Takuma Sato.

https://honda.racing/indy-car-series/post/drivers-...

And it's already started. People deriding what she's doing and they don't even bother to learn what series she is racing in....

[ch37]

andyA700 said:

I just want to say, it isn't F1 or anything close. The Indycars have 650bhp against 1000bhp of the Merdedes F1 car. There are still people competing in Indycar who competed in F1 decades ago, how would they do in F1 today? Juan Pablo Montoya, Takuma Sato.

https://honda.racing/indy-car-series/post/drivers-...

I dearly hope I'm in need of woosh parrot considering you've replied to my post, but this 'statement' EXACTLY confirms my point.

[carl_w]

I'm pretty sure no-one has gone from IndyLights to F1 but has anyone gone to F2? I know Townsend Bell went into F3000 but then returned to Indycar racing.

Edit: I'm wrong. Indy Lights championship winner Cristiano da Matta did two seasons in the Toyota F1 team.

Edited by carl_w on Friday 2nd December 12:19

[andyA700]

JoelH said:

andyA700 said:

I just want to say, it isn't F1 or anything close. The Indycars have 650bhp against 1000bhp of the Merdedes F1 car. There are still people competing in Indycar who competed in F1 decades ago, how would they do in F1 today? Juan Pablo Montoya, Takuma Sato.

https://honda.racing/indy-car-series/post/drivers-...

And it's already started. People deriding what she's doing and they don't even bother to learn what series she is racing in....

OK matey, show me where I derided her.

[thegreenhell]

carl_w said:

I'm pretty sure no-one has gone from IndyLights to F1 but has anyone gone to F2? I know Townsend Bell went into F3000 but then returned to Indycar racing.

Edit: I'm wrong. Indy Lights championship winner Cristiano da Matta did two seasons in the Toyota F1 team.

Max Chilton did it the other way around - F1 and then Indy Lights.

[Castellet]

Has Tatiana Calderon not done Indycar and F2?
Nice girl, but probably not the best example - Chadwick beat her in Asian F3.

Surely it makes sense for Indy racing to be a recognised feeder for F1, as the US is a highly lucrative market for the F1 circus.

Colton Herta was considered good enough for McLaren, and Alex Palou is joining them as a reserve.

[carl_w]

thegreenhell said:

Max Chilton did it the other way around - F1 and then Indy Lights.

Seems a bit odd that he didn't go straight from F1 into Indycar?

[LukeBrown66]

Chilton and his family is loaded to the hilt so had the budget to do a learning year and was no doubt helped with budget to do it.

Same as Jamie, she will be well backed to do this.

I do not think she will ever end up in F1, simply because in her career so far she has not shown that extra level of speed you need and unless she brings billionaire wealth, which she does not, she is not buying her way in.

I find it sad and fairly pathetic that Williams never even gave her a run at an airfield or something as far as I know, nor Aston Martin, but at Aston she was very young, Williams could easily have let her do something more than driving an old FW08 up Goodwood for goodness sake. Just about sums up that team currently

I wish her well, Lights is no walkover and if she can say top ten first year then push into podiums and maybe wins second year her Indy car future is secured.

Forget F1 unless something drastic happens she ain't getting there, but who cares, she will make a far better career for herself in the US than Europe anyway, much like Katherine Legge has done.

[GingerMunky]

Good luck to her. She may not get to F1, but blazing a trail for others to follow and be inspired. Can only be a good thing surely.

[thegreenhell]

LukeBrown66 said:

I find it sad and fairly pathetic that Williams never even gave her a run at an airfield or something as far as I know, nor Aston Martin, but at Aston she was very young, Williams could easily have let her do something more than driving an old FW08 up Goodwood for goodness sake. Just about sums up that team currently

To be fair to Aston Martin, they didn't have an F1 team when she was associated with them, so she was only able to race in GT with them.

[JoelH]

andyA700 said:

OK matey, show me where I derided her.

Never said you did. I said you derided what she is doing not her personally.

[andyA700]

JoelH said:

andyA700 said:

OK matey, show me where I derided her.

Never said you did. I said you derided what she is doing not her personally.

And again, you have used the word "derided". I have simply said all along that she should be taking the tried and tested route of competing in F3, then F2 to get into F1 if she is good enough. Very simple to understand - well, for most people.

[thiscocks]

LukeBrown66 said:

America is the place to be for many aspiring racers, they are well paid out there, far more so than in Europe, and if she struggled with Indy car I am sure she will find a home in IMSA,

I am not expecting her to set the world alight over there, but the level in Indycar is nowhere near that in top level world single seaters, but it is a lot to learn, so give her time and i hope she can show she is good enough for that level and maybe that also means she has seat time in bigger, powerful xars to get used to that and show some f1 teams her pace to gain a test role or something.

I find it pathetic actually teat Williams never gave her a run despite being supposedly a young driver for them

Do you mean Indy-lights or Indycar? If you actually mean Indycar then you're talking rubbish.

Think its a good move for Chadwick. Some good circuits to learn, get some oval experience then the possibility of going to Indycar which would be something very worthwile to aim at and to compare herself to some of the best single seater drivers.

If I was her I'd forget F1. Plenty of good series in America to go to if she does well in Indylights.

[LukeBrown66]

It really is not rubbish at all, the best guy in Indycar would not be anywhere near the front in F1 even in a good team, the sheer fact that you can have guys racing there for over a decade whose careers fell way to get to F1 shows that. So please do not try and tell anyone with any nous that Indy car is a match or even better in terms of driver quality.

They are very different series, and require very different sorts of drivers, but I am not sure a mid pack guy in Indy would be anywhere other than at the back in f1, the top guys would find away, that is why they are top guys, but I cannot see ANY of the top guys in Indy getting anywhere near Max, Lewis, Russell et al, sorry.