Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?
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FourWheelDrift said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Also of note is Ella Hakkinen, daughter of Mika, signing as a McLaren junior. She s only 14 and will get some testing experience next year before going into F4 in 27, likely in the F1 Academy and one of the European F4 series. You d have to think she would be in with a shout of moving up the ladder!
Ella Hakkinen, Ella Lloyd and Ella Stevens. A job lot of Ellas.
Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 18th November 18:52
Milkyway said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Also of note is Ella Hakkinen, daughter of Mika, signing as a McLaren junior. She s only 14 and will get some testing experience next year before going into F4 in 27, likely in the F1 Academy and one of the European F4 series. You d have to think she would be in with a shout of moving up the ladder!
Ella Hakkinen, Ella Lloyd and Ella Stevens. A job lot of Ellas.(That's your ear worm for today.)
Milkyway said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Also of note is Ella Hakkinen, daughter of Mika, signing as a McLaren junior. She s only 14 and will get some testing experience next year before going into F4 in 27, likely in the F1 Academy and one of the European F4 series. You d have to think she would be in with a shout of moving up the ladder!
Ella Hakkinen, Ella Lloyd and Ella Stevens. A job lot of Ellas.Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 18th November 18:52
Milkyway said:
The Three Ellas
Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Susie knows no more than anyone else.Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 18th November 18:52
You are either quick enough or you aren't.
732NM said:
Milkyway said:
The Three Ellas
Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Susie knows no more than anyone else.Susie Wolff reckons that there will be women in F1 within ten years... So they are in their early karting years at the moment.
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 18th November 18:52
You are either quick enough or you aren't.
She has has some great training, she is British so has manners and eloquence something the fat cretin in the box could learn, she has no reason to be there other than some extra money, she nothing whatsoever to prove, by far the most sucessful female racing driver since Danica in Indy, and she is also representing Hyundai in WEC next year and this year so you might see as much of her.
She is class and always has been
She is class and always has been
bergclimber34 said:
She has has some great training, she is British so has manners and eloquence something the fat cretin in the box could learn, she has no reason to be there other than some extra money, she nothing whatsoever to prove, by far the most sucessful female racing driver since Danica in Indy, and she is also representing Hyundai in WEC next year and this year so you might see as much of her.
She is class and always has been
Great eyebrows too. She's like the Nigel Mansell of racing drivers. She is class and always has been
She is not very average for goodness sake.
She did very little wrong this year in ELMS, while at pains to say she was nowhere near quick enough, she was only a bronze driver, so perfectly fine, she won Indy NXT races and was competitive at lots of places, but admitted she was not really strong enough to really drive and muscle the car, certainly not an Indycar .
This Hyundai role is perfect, time behind the wheel of a complex, tricky car, hopefully more time in ELMS, and pundit work, which like Bernie, she is a dab hand at.
She did very little wrong this year in ELMS, while at pains to say she was nowhere near quick enough, she was only a bronze driver, so perfectly fine, she won Indy NXT races and was competitive at lots of places, but admitted she was not really strong enough to really drive and muscle the car, certainly not an Indycar .
This Hyundai role is perfect, time behind the wheel of a complex, tricky car, hopefully more time in ELMS, and pundit work, which like Bernie, she is a dab hand at.
She's not average compared to the driver on the street, she very much is at the professional driver in an FIA championship level. The standard at that level is high, just getting a support driver role is doing well, that achievement is hard to obtain for the hundreds of equally good drivers.
That's not a disparaging remark about her, I think she is a great young lady with a bright future, just not behind the wheel at the elite level.
It's absolutely clear now that the answer to the thread title question is no, and there is no other female drivers in the pipeline to achieve that either.
F1 academy is not going to produce an F1 driver, it's role is to expand the pool of girls showing an interest, that isn't enough, the pool will still be too small.
Listening to Lando's mum after his win this weekend told the reality, the girls and her went one direction, the boys and his dad went another, that's a tough norm to break.
That's not a disparaging remark about her, I think she is a great young lady with a bright future, just not behind the wheel at the elite level.
It's absolutely clear now that the answer to the thread title question is no, and there is no other female drivers in the pipeline to achieve that either.
F1 academy is not going to produce an F1 driver, it's role is to expand the pool of girls showing an interest, that isn't enough, the pool will still be too small.
Listening to Lando's mum after his win this weekend told the reality, the girls and her went one direction, the boys and his dad went another, that's a tough norm to break.
732NM said:
She's not average compared to the driver on the street, she very much is at the professional driver in an FIA championship level. The standard at that level is high, just getting a support driver role is doing well, that achievement is hard to obtain for the hundreds of equally good drivers.
That's not a disparaging remark about her, I think she is a great young lady with a bright future, just not behind the wheel at the elite level.
It's absolutely clear now that the answer to the thread title question is no, and there is no other female drivers in the pipeline to achieve that either.
F1 academy is not going to produce an F1 driver, it's role is to expand the pool of girls showing an interest, that isn't enough, the pool will still be too small.
Listening to Lando's mum after his win this weekend told the reality, the girls and her went one direction, the boys and his dad went another, that's a tough norm to break.
Can you expand on what she said, I didn't hear it?That's not a disparaging remark about her, I think she is a great young lady with a bright future, just not behind the wheel at the elite level.
It's absolutely clear now that the answer to the thread title question is no, and there is no other female drivers in the pipeline to achieve that either.
F1 academy is not going to produce an F1 driver, it's role is to expand the pool of girls showing an interest, that isn't enough, the pool will still be too small.
Listening to Lando's mum after his win this weekend told the reality, the girls and her went one direction, the boys and his dad went another, that's a tough norm to break.
White-Noise said:
Can you expand on what she said, I didn't hear it?
She was talking about how the family split in two from the moment Lando showed promise in his early karting and they barely saw each other from that moment, with the girls and her doing one thing, both boys and dad off doing something else with large chunks of time apart.That's what it takes to get to that level, it destroys the family unit. Lots of divorced parents in the padock or effectively still married but separated couples.
I think you are very misguided if you think ELMS or WEC are not elite level, even Indy NXT s getting close a place she won races.
Clearly you have some issues around this so perhaps best to move on or away. I am sure Hyundai are not employing her for her gender, there is always that aspect, she is not stupid, she knows this.
There will be a lass one day who proves this all nonsense, it will take someone very special, with immense drive and determination.
Jamie has admitted herself from her own experience that the physical demands of a top single seater are very challenging for women, she decided to step back from that and pursue a career in endurance racing.
Then I suppose a 2 hour stint in an lmp2 is easy isn't it.
Clearly you have some issues around this so perhaps best to move on or away. I am sure Hyundai are not employing her for her gender, there is always that aspect, she is not stupid, she knows this.
There will be a lass one day who proves this all nonsense, it will take someone very special, with immense drive and determination.
Jamie has admitted herself from her own experience that the physical demands of a top single seater are very challenging for women, she decided to step back from that and pursue a career in endurance racing.
Then I suppose a 2 hour stint in an lmp2 is easy isn't it.
732NM said:
White-Noise said:
Can you expand on what she said, I didn't hear it?
She was talking about how the family split in two from the moment Lando showed promise in his early karting and they barely saw each other from that moment, with the girls and her doing one thing, both boys and dad off doing something else with large chunks of time apart.That's what it takes to get to that level, it destroys the family unit. Lots of divorced parents in the padock or effectively still married but separated couples.
It would also have the positive side-effect of keeping more families spending time together.
Just from personal experience it seems a rare thing for a female to be interested in cars / motorsport independently.
Every one I've known has been into it due to being a Daddy's girl of a car/motorsport mad father or had siblings in it, and all of them have stopped it once getting older and independent.
I wonder how effective all this Formula Woman etc is at inspiring young girls directly? I often think it is the parents that need inspiring or as above the rich girls to be swerved away from horses
Every one I've known has been into it due to being a Daddy's girl of a car/motorsport mad father or had siblings in it, and all of them have stopped it once getting older and independent.
I wonder how effective all this Formula Woman etc is at inspiring young girls directly? I often think it is the parents that need inspiring or as above the rich girls to be swerved away from horses
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