Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

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wevster

765 posts

157 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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FeelingLucky said:
Completely agree, palpable nonsense all this talk of "running him out of road", possibly the pundits aren't willing to come right out and say it, but I will, in Brazil, Max was clearly (IMO) looking to make contact. That's why, once off the road, he kept on coming. Only heading back to the track when it was clear Lewis was savvy to the tactic.

I'm sure Merc/Toto/Lewis are/were expecting this tactic, and equally sure the FIA will turn a blind eye (as Brazil) or impose a penalty that wont affect Max's championship ambitions.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this way.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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There is no ability to run off to avoid contact at this venue, so if we see a similar situation as Brazil with Lewis trying to pass, i wouldn't be surprised to see another Schumacher Hill 94.

HTP99

22,546 posts

140 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
There is no ability to run off to avoid contact at this venue, so if we see a similar situation as Brazil with Lewis trying to pass, i wouldn't be surprised to see another Schumacher Hill 94.
Hamilton is too clever IMHO, he knows who he is dealing with and how he operates, any pass if one is needed will be done on a straight.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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HTP99 said:
Hamilton is too clever IMHO, he knows who he is dealing with and how he operates, any pass if one is needed will be done on a straight.
The Brazil pass was on a straight.

HTP99

22,546 posts

140 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
HTP99 said:
Hamilton is too clever IMHO, he knows who he is dealing with and how he operates, any pass if one is needed will be done on a straight.
The Brazil pass was on a straight.
Mmm, but ended up at a corner?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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HTP99 said:
Mmm, but ended up at a corner?
They all do.

PhilAsia

3,799 posts

75 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
HTP99 said:
Mmm, but ended up at a corner?
They all do.
This is getting quite NASCARy.. biggrin

Oilchange

8,461 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
They all do.
Max didn't try to punt Lewis off on the straight, he did it on the corner.
Better?

slopes

38,812 posts

187 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Max will take Lewis off at the first opportunity just to make sure he wins the title. But having said that, if you no longer have the win at all costs mentality, are you still a top level racing driver?
Probably not, as someone else said, you have to be ruthless to win at the top level.

But will Max winning ruin the sport? Not really, be a bit like Toprak Razgatlioglou beating Jonathan Rea for the World SuperBike Championship this year, one of the best years racing in the last 6 or 7 years and the same goes for this season with F1

Oilchange

8,461 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Last few races to decide the championship should have Masi warning drivers that you can't win the championship by making your nearest rival crash and backing it up with the threat of a sufficient points withdrawal.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Oilchange said:
Max didn't try to punt Lewis off on the straight, he did it on the corner.
Better?
What do you mean by better?

All I'm saying is that on a street circuit you cant drive away from someone trying to take you out, there is a wall there. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see Max run up the back of Lewis in the braking zone if we see a pass on the straight. Hopefully Lewis is too far ahead but all it would take is a SC and they will likely be nose to tail.

Oilchange

8,461 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Clearer then.

I too suspect Max will do whatever it takes and probably win by crashing, just hope he is penalised sufficiently for gaining an advantage.

PhilAsia

3,799 posts

75 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
Oilchange said:
Max didn't try to punt Lewis off on the straight, he did it on the corner.
Better?
What do you mean by better?

All I'm saying is that on a street circuit you cant drive away from someone trying to take you out, there is a wall there. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see Max run up the back of Lewis in the braking zone if we see a pass on the straight. Hopefully Lewis is too far ahead but all it would take is a SC and they will likely be nose to tail.
I think it was crystal...

PhilAsia

3,799 posts

75 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Oilchange said:
Clearer then.

I too suspect Max will do whatever it takes and probably win by crashing, just hope he is penalised sufficiently for gaining an advantage.
He has succeeded once to gain a points advantage. He has also succeeded due to Lewis avoiding contact on three (is it 4 now?) occasions.

Watch the FIA carefully.

Oilchange

8,461 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Yeah I will do, as I said I just hope they apply penalties if a championship win hangs in the balance, last race on the calendar type thing.
Somehow I doubt it but we'll see.

Evanivitch

20,074 posts

122 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I think we got our answer today!

Teppic

7,353 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Guaranteed now.

vdn

8,911 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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100%

Teppic

7,353 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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They both need to be told that they risk a points deduction or disqualification in the event of any dirty driving or a collision between them.

Jonny_

4,128 posts

207 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Now that they're dead level on points, with Max ahead on race wins, this raises an interesting question.

Say that the predictions here come to fruition and Max takes both Hamilton and himself out of the race. And subsequently is found in breach of sporting conduct regs. Obviously no time penalty or DQ would actually matter, given that Lewis is prevented from scoring any points. Is there any option open to the stewards that would NOT still result in his taking the WDC?

Or, in other words, is there any actual deterrent?