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732NM

12,692 posts

41 months

Friday 22nd May
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WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
Yet they let one in once the money was right. The contract they signed caters for 12 teams.

TheDeuce

32,710 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd May
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732NM said:
WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
Yet they let one in once the money was right. The contract they signed caters for 12 teams.
Also China F1 opens up new marketing potential for pretty much all team owners and sponsors.

I'm sure they'd rather the 12th and final team they have to worry about is one that delights their sponsors/brands by opening up new territory rather another European or American team where they're already well covered one way or another and the viewers are already engaged.

ahelaborate

12 posts

13 months

Friday 22nd May
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WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
At the end of the day, it all comes down to money. With the right price, anything is possible.

willy wombat

1,123 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd May
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And if we get a Chinese team how long until we get a second and third GP in China? Just dump a couple of these inconvenient European races and chase the giant Chinese market.

suffolk009

7,546 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd May
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WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
Sufficient $$$,$$$,$$$ will fix it

TheDeuce

32,710 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd May
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willy wombat said:
And if we get a Chinese team how long until we get a second and third GP in China? Just dump a couple of these inconvenient European races and chase the giant Chinese market.
Yes, it sucks that UK and European relevance in the commercial world is waning. But it is, and F1 is duty bound to go to the places that make the most commercial sense.


richhead

3,086 posts

37 months

Friday 22nd May
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all the noise im hearing about this make alot of sense.
A chinese company will for sure at looking to increase market share outside of china, and F1 would be a good way.
Horner has built a team before, and with the offer of a stake, im sure he would be interested.
People who know him well that i know have long said that he always felt hard done by not having a stake in red bull.
Non of it sounds out of the question.

TheDeuce

32,710 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd May
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richhead said:
all the noise im hearing about this make alot of sense.
A chinese company will for sure at looking to increase market share outside of china, and F1 would be a good way.
Horner has built a team before, and with the offer of a stake, im sure he would be interested.
People who know him well that i know have long said that he always felt hard done by not having a stake in red bull.
Non of it sounds out of the question.
Indeed. It sounds like Horners best chance for a new project and aside from if/how he fits in, there is no real doubt that the next team will be Chinese. It makes complete commercial sense for everyone, the stars are aligned.


DanielSan

19,906 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd May
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WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
If ever a sentence sums up what's wrong with a sport it's this. Teams shouldn't have a say who gets to come and race against them, same way tbey shouldn't have a say in what the rules are

TheDeuce

32,710 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd May
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DanielSan said:
WPA said:
Cannot see the current teams allowing another team to join the grid
If ever a sentence sums up what's wrong with a sport it's this. Teams shouldn't have a say who gets to come and race against them, same way tbey shouldn't have a say in what the rules are
This makes complete sense so long as you completely ignore the obvious reality. F1 is a business...

DeejRC

9,020 posts

108 months

Saturday 23rd May
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F1 started off as a business. F1 has always been a business. Sometimes, for a few yrs at different times, some amateur outfits have had some success, but they almost always submerged again beneath the business interests.

tele_lover

2,407 posts

41 months

Sunday 24th May
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Smitters said:
tele_lover said:
BunkMoreland said:
Biggles Flies Undone said:
...There is a massive conflict of interest here, but you can't ban Susie from doing her job just because of who she is married to...
Ironic that she's only had the jobs she has had cause she married her husband. hehe

No place being a F1 test driver for the team her Husband part owned (she has a poor racing record*)
No place being in charge running F1 Academy. (for the exact same reasons)

Susie Stoddart wasn't about to get those roles!


* No wins, no poles, no fastest laps in any race car. (FR UKF3 or DTM) She's the absolute definition of promoted beyond her abilities due to friends in high places. And lets not forget the 2017 MBE for "services to Women in Sport."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Wolff#Racing_r...
Blimey....
And yet CH seems to have done OK as a TP, despite being less than top tier in a car. Arsene Wenger had a forgettable football career, yet is one of the most successful Managers in football. You can be good at something without being good at another. You can generate value through the sum of your abilities. This is literally how the world works.
Yes, I agree with that point....

... but they actually went on to achieve things, without their spouse clearly influencing a lot of it.

Stuart70

4,139 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th May
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Where was Susie Stoddart when she came into contact with her now husband?

What misogynistic nonsense can you come up with as to how she got there?


732NM

12,692 posts

41 months

Sunday 24th May
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Stuart70 said:
Where was Susie Stoddart when she came into contact with her now husband?

What misogynistic nonsense can you come up with as to how she got there?
She maximised her assets. A man with her record and ability wouldn't have gone anywhere at the professional level. She's not completely crap, but miles off what's required even in sports cars.

Jamie is better, and she's bang average for sports cars.

Horner was similar, not good enough for professional racing, he was smart enough to realise that and change course.

MustangGT

13,736 posts

306 months

Sunday 24th May
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732NM said:
She maximised her assets. A man with her record and ability wouldn't have gone anywhere at the professional level. She's not completely crap, but miles off what's required even in sports cars.

Jamie is better, and she's bang average for sports cars.

Horner was similar, not good enough for professional racing, he was smart enough to realise that and change course.
Spot on, as usual.

Stuart70

4,139 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th May
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732NM said:
Stuart70 said:
Where was Susie Stoddart when she came into contact with her now husband?

What misogynistic nonsense can you come up with as to how she got there?
She maximised her assets. A man with her record and ability wouldn't have gone anywhere at the professional level. She's not completely crap, but miles off what's required even in sports cars.

Jamie is better, and she's bang average for sports cars.

Horner was similar, not good enough for professional racing, he was smart enough to realise that and change course.
And yet (although he is a dislikeable wazzock) no-one questions his right to engage in the running of teams and a place in the firmament despite being a st racing driver (all relatively speaking).

Why does being female bring out the attack monkeys on their keyboards?

732NM

12,692 posts

41 months

Sunday 24th May
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Stuart70 said:
And yet (although he is a dislikeable wazzock) no-one questions his right to engage in the running of teams and a place in the firmament despite being a st racing driver (all relatively speaking).

Why does being female bring out the attack monkeys on their keyboards?
Where are the attacks on competent women team managers?

TheDeuce

32,710 posts

92 months

Sunday 24th May
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732NM said:
Stuart70 said:
And yet (although he is a dislikeable wazzock) no-one questions his right to engage in the running of teams and a place in the firmament despite being a st racing driver (all relatively speaking).

Why does being female bring out the attack monkeys on their keyboards?
Where are the attacks on competent women team managers?
Claire Willia...

Never mind getmecoat

llewop

3,919 posts

237 months

Sunday 24th May
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Stuart70 said:
And yet (although he is a dislikeable wazzock) no-one questions his right to engage in the running of teams and a place in the firmament despite being a st racing driver (all relatively speaking).

Why does being female bring out the attack monkeys on their keyboards?
Er… I think that there are a fair that do. Me included; the toxicity from him and Marko was extremely wearying and the absence of it is refreshing, long may it continue.


DeejRC

9,020 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th May
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Stuart70 said:
732NM said:
Stuart70 said:
Where was Susie Stoddart when she came into contact with her now husband?

What misogynistic nonsense can you come up with as to how she got there?
She maximised her assets. A man with her record and ability wouldn't have gone anywhere at the professional level. She's not completely crap, but miles off what's required even in sports cars.

Jamie is better, and she's bang average for sports cars.

Horner was similar, not good enough for professional racing, he was smart enough to realise that and change course.
And yet (although he is a dislikeable wazzock) no-one questions his right to engage in the running of teams and a place in the firmament despite being a st racing driver (all relatively speaking).

Why does being female bring out the attack monkeys on their keyboards?
Er Stuart you are literally posting on a thread questioning his right to…etc, etc…