Mercedes problem!
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Hazmat1 said:
Recent article from
Toto said it was an easy fix, stiffen the floor to the point it stops flexing and then it’s all fixed.
However they were reluctant as there is so much Time gained if your floor can flex just the right amount and produce even more downforce, The teams that manage this will have a huge advantage Hence the persistence with the current floor
Is it just me or has Toto just said "We're using the floor flex as a (banned) movable aero device."?Toto said it was an easy fix, stiffen the floor to the point it stops flexing and then it’s all fixed.
However they were reluctant as there is so much Time gained if your floor can flex just the right amount and produce even more downforce, The teams that manage this will have a huge advantage Hence the persistence with the current floor
A slip of the tongue - or a deliberate move to get the FIA to look at it/introduce a new floor flex test that means everyone ends up with a zero flex floor...and Merc. don't have to spend loads from the cost-cap trying to get their flexible floor to work as well as the Red Bull/Ferarri ones?
//j17 said:
Hazmat1 said:
Recent article from
Toto said it was an easy fix, stiffen the floor to the point it stops flexing and then it’s all fixed.
However they were reluctant as there is so much Time gained if your floor can flex just the right amount and produce even more downforce, The teams that manage this will have a huge advantage Hence the persistence with the current floor
Is it just me or has Toto just said "We're using the floor flex as a (banned) movable aero device."?Toto said it was an easy fix, stiffen the floor to the point it stops flexing and then it’s all fixed.
However they were reluctant as there is so much Time gained if your floor can flex just the right amount and produce even more downforce, The teams that manage this will have a huge advantage Hence the persistence with the current floor
A slip of the tongue - or a deliberate move to get the FIA to look at it/introduce a new floor flex test that means everyone ends up with a zero flex floor...and Merc. don't have to spend loads from the cost-cap trying to get their flexible floor to work as well as the Red Bull/Ferarri ones?
ttyTomm3 said:
Well we'll soon see if it's fixed ??. Personally I think they have done enough to get where they should have started the season so just behind RB and Ferrari. But. Who knows, I just hope they're not a second off pole today. Really need 6 cars in the mix.
Who knows indeed. It's FP. It proves nothing unfortunately. I'm not getting too excited. It would be nice to have six cars in the mix, especially given that Russell seems to be there or thereabouts. I reckon it will happen withing the next three or four races, but I'm not convinced they've done much.To be honest Merc have had the outer edges of their floor at track level in nearly all races so it’s not new the height it’s at in Spain, the difference is that it’s staying there now.
My hunch is that the slit along the floor on all the cars allows a bleed of pressure when it all gets too much and would otherwise trigger the bouncing.
God knows what’s actually doing it as they still have a bit through high speed corners so maybe the roll is effecting floor height setting it off slightly.
My hunch is that the slit along the floor on all the cars allows a bleed of pressure when it all gets too much and would otherwise trigger the bouncing.
God knows what’s actually doing it as they still have a bit through high speed corners so maybe the roll is effecting floor height setting it off slightly.
Their pace this weekend was certainly a lot more impressive. But, I think the high track temperatures may have flattered them. In all previous races, the talk of their pace has centred around 2 things - Porpoising and struggling to warm up the tyres. This weekend we saw some of the highest track temps so far this season, which will have certainly played in to their hands.
I found it very interesting how in the early races, LeClerc and Verstappen could follow each other very closely and get passed each other relatively easily, but put a Mercedes somewhere where it arguably shouldn't have been and Max just couldn't get passed without a significant tyre advantage. That could be down to the track characteristics - Catalunya is not known as a track that produces great wheel to wheel racing - but also seeing how much both Max and Checo had to lift whilst following through turn 3, I can't help but wonder whether the Merc aero philosophy has made the car produce a more unstable wake that is harder for cars to follow through.
I found it very interesting how in the early races, LeClerc and Verstappen could follow each other very closely and get passed each other relatively easily, but put a Mercedes somewhere where it arguably shouldn't have been and Max just couldn't get passed without a significant tyre advantage. That could be down to the track characteristics - Catalunya is not known as a track that produces great wheel to wheel racing - but also seeing how much both Max and Checo had to lift whilst following through turn 3, I can't help but wonder whether the Merc aero philosophy has made the car produce a more unstable wake that is harder for cars to follow through.
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