Daniel Ricciardo

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vaud

52,781 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2024
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skeeterm5 said:
With RB looking like dropping to 3rd in the constructors championship what about Danny Ric to replace Perez until the end of the season?
Why?

carl_w

9,642 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2024
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vaud said:
Why?
Can't be any worse than Perez? Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.

vaud

52,781 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2024
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carl_w said:
Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.
Rumors are that they are looking at that.

tele_lover

646 posts

24 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
carl_w said:
Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.
Rumors are that they are looking at that.
Presumably Tsunoda would go to RBR then, with Lawson and C at Alpha Tauri?

TheDeuce

25,764 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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carl_w said:
vaud said:
Why?
Can't be any worse than Perez? Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.
Why though? With Perez they save millions on points, get a load more wind tunnel and CFD time and get to flog more Red Bull drinks into the Spanish speaking world.


HTP99

23,457 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
skeeterm5 said:
With RB looking like dropping to 3rd in the constructors championship what about Danny Ric to replace Perez until the end of the season?
Why?
Exactly, why.

DR is done, he won't be driving F1 again, unless it's some promotional day for Red Bull, why do people still have this thing for him.

vaud

52,781 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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tele_lover said:
Presumably Tsunoda would go to RBR then, with Lawson and C at Alpha Tauri?
That’s my guess as well.

HTP99

23,457 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
tele_lover said:
Presumably Tsunoda would go to RBR then, with Lawson and C at Alpha Tauri?
That’s my guess as well.
RBR don't want Tsunoda, I reckon it will be Lawson if he performs well for the rest of the season.

Jasandjules

70,602 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
tele_lover said:
Presumably Tsunoda would go to RBR then, with Lawson and C at Alpha Tauri?
That’s my guess as well.
Oddly I would say Lawson to RB and C and T at VCarb... Will depend on how much power Honda has I guess going forward.....

Teatowell

1,426 posts

192 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Jasandjules said:
Oddly I would say Lawson to RB and C and T at VCarb... Will depend on how much power Honda has I guess going forward.....
Nothing odd about it. The vcarb drive is just an interview for the big team. Wouldn’t be surprised if they do it before the end of the season even. Just then depends whether hadjar gets the vcarb seat or someone else.

Muzzer79

11,219 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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TheDeuce said:
carl_w said:
vaud said:
Why?
Can't be any worse than Perez? Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.
Why though? With Perez they save millions on points, get a load more wind tunnel and CFD time and get to flog more Red Bull drinks into the Spanish speaking world.
You can think what you like about Red Bull Racing but it's a fact that they are there to win, not to come second.

You don't invest billions in a race team over many seasons to accept second place so you get "more wind tunnel time" and flog more drinks in South America.

The only reason they didn't replace Perez in the summer was that they didn't have a better option - Ricciardo wasn't performing when Horner expected him to.

I expect a change for next year if Lawson continues to do well in the RB over the coming races.

If that does play out, it'll be Verstappen and Lawson in the RBR and Tsunoda alongside Colapinto/Hadjar in the RB.

TheDeuce

25,764 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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HTP99 said:
vaud said:
tele_lover said:
Presumably Tsunoda would go to RBR then, with Lawson and C at Alpha Tauri?
That’s my guess as well.
RBR don't want Tsunoda, I reckon it will be Lawson if he performs well for the rest of the season.
Tsunoda arrived with Honda and will be gone when they move to AMR

ThingsBehindTheSun

1,400 posts

40 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
carl_w said:
Looks to me like Red Bull/RB should have snapped up Colapinto.
Rumors are that they are looking at that.
It went really well the last time they signed someone from Williams who had impressed in one race.

If Lawson impresses over the remaining five races then they have to get rid of Perez, put Lawson alongside Max and then get an up and coming driver for the second RB seat alongside Tsunoda.

No way is Ricciardo ever coming back, they now need to get Perez to join him.

vaud

52,781 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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TheDeuce said:
Tsunoda arrived with Honda and will be gone when they move to AMR
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-hints-...

And yet Honda are pressuring Red Bull for a test...

TheDeuce

25,764 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
TheDeuce said:
Tsunoda arrived with Honda and will be gone when they move to AMR
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-hints-...

And yet Honda are pressuring Red Bull for a test...
Probably just part of the supply agreement.

He's hardly in F1 on merit.

Muzzer79

11,219 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
TheDeuce said:
Tsunoda arrived with Honda and will be gone when they move to AMR
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-hints-...

And yet Honda are pressuring Red Bull for a test...
Indeed they are...........to show that Tsunoda isn't slow, ready for when he needs to find another team in 2026.......

He's not going to Red Bull Racing - that much is clear.

Zetec-S

6,328 posts

102 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Nothing will be decided until the end of the season, they'll want to give it as long as possible, if Lawson proves consistent then he will probably get the drive. Harsh on Yuki as he's sat in the B team for a long time now and often finishes "best of the rest" outside the top 5 teams.

I'm not really sure why everyone bangs on about Checo's nationality being a deciding factor. Red Bull are a massive brand, being at the front of the grid and winning races and championships is going to be far more effective when it comes to flogging energy drinks than what it says on their driver's passports.

Are people really that shallow? If they ditch Checo will sales really drop off that much in the Mexican market? When Mercedes signed Hamilton was the driving factor the hope they could sell a load more nasty little white hatchbacks in the UK market?

Teatowell

1,426 posts

192 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Zetec-S said:
Nothing will be decided until the end of the season, they'll want to give it as long as possible, if Lawson proves consistent then he will probably get the drive. Harsh on Yuki as he's sat in the B team for a long time now and often finishes "best of the rest" outside the top 5 teams.

I'm not really sure why everyone bangs on about Checo's nationality being a deciding factor. Red Bull are a massive brand, being at the front of the grid and winning races and championships is going to be far more effective when it comes to flogging energy drinks than what it says on their driver's passports.

Are people really that shallow? If they ditch Checo will sales really drop off that much in the Mexican market? When Mercedes signed Hamilton was the driving factor the hope they could sell a load more nasty little white hatchbacks in the UK market?
I think the answer is yes. RB get huge cash from Carlos Slim for Checo and I’m sure decent revenue from merch sales.

Mercedes previously attributed £4bn in marketing benefit from f1. Think back to what the brand was pre Lewis in the 2010s. It was an old man car brand. Now it’s anything but.

MustangGT

12,419 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Muzzer79 said:
You can think what you like about Red Bull Racing but it's a fact that they are there to win, not to come second.

You don't invest billions in a race team over many seasons to accept second place so you get "more wind tunnel time" and flog more drinks in South America.
Are you sure about this? I see no sign that this is true. If it was true they would put the best possible driver in car #2.

RB are using F1 as a marketing tool, no more, no less. Any publicity they get is great, regardless if positive or negative.

TheDeuce

25,764 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Zetec-S said:
Nothing will be decided until the end of the season, they'll want to give it as long as possible, if Lawson proves consistent then he will probably get the drive. Harsh on Yuki as he's sat in the B team for a long time now and often finishes "best of the rest" outside the top 5 teams.

I'm not really sure why everyone bangs on about Checo's nationality being a deciding factor. Red Bull are a massive brand, being at the front of the grid and winning races and championships is going to be far more effective when it comes to flogging energy drinks than what it says on their driver's passports.

Are people really that shallow? If they ditch Checo will sales really drop off that much in the Mexican market? When Mercedes signed Hamilton was the driving factor the hope they could sell a load more nasty little white hatchbacks in the UK market?
It's not 'the' deciding factor, it's one of several.

It's also not just Mexico, he can and does engage in Spanish via several channels, including TV adverts, which is useful for various brands/sponsors. Whatever the message, it's obviously useful if it can be communicated to such a huge proportion of the planet by a guy who speaks the lingo as a first language.