Daniel Ricciardo

Daniel Ricciardo

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hondajack85

333 posts

8 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Lawson looked ok last race. This is what will doom his move to head office.
Max doesnt like it when someone is close to him on the track. A few non finishes and he could be chasing all season.
More likely Yuki would get the nod as he doesnt seen to pay attention some times and could be reeled in at will.
Anyway where doese this breathtaking sense of entitlement come from? Some geezer finally gets a f1 job but wants a better one instantly?
I have worked with people like this lol.

Muzzer79

11,218 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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MustangGT said:
Muzzer79 said:
You can think what you like about Red Bull Racing but it's a fact that they are there to win, not to come second.

You don't invest billions in a race team over many seasons to accept second place so you get "more wind tunnel time" and flog more drinks in South America.
Are you sure about this? I see no sign that this is true. If it was true they would put the best possible driver in car #2.

RB are using F1 as a marketing tool, no more, no less. Any publicity they get is great, regardless if positive or negative.
I am sure about this.

No signs? Really? The billions invested over the last 20 years in facilities, infrastructure and personnel? Hiring the greatest F1 designer of all time when the team was a fledgling?
You think that you win 6 constructor's titles by going into it half-arsed and with a mentality that second is OK as long as you're still selling fizzy drinks?

Creating a winning team by no means requires the best possible driver in the second car - that's a total fallacy. Just ask Jean Todt or even Ron Dennis.

RB are using F1 as a marketing tool, just as Mercedes are and Ferrari and all the others. But that doesn't mean they accept second place.

Horner may be many, many (very unsavoury) things, but one thing he definitely is is a very, very bad loser.

As a team, RBR is not very likeable but let's not be jaded into thinking they're not serious about this game.

Rotary Potato

402 posts

105 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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I love the irony of Danny Ric being so irrelevant now that he's not even being discussed on his own topic. smile

TheDeuce

25,734 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Muzzer79 said:
MustangGT said:
Muzzer79 said:
You can think what you like about Red Bull Racing but it's a fact that they are there to win, not to come second.

You don't invest billions in a race team over many seasons to accept second place so you get "more wind tunnel time" and flog more drinks in South America.
Are you sure about this? I see no sign that this is true. If it was true they would put the best possible driver in car #2.

RB are using F1 as a marketing tool, no more, no less. Any publicity they get is great, regardless if positive or negative.
I am sure about this.

No signs? Really? The billions invested over the last 20 years in facilities, infrastructure and personnel? Hiring the greatest F1 designer of all time when the team was a fledgling?
You think that you win 6 constructor's titles by going into it half-arsed and with a mentality that second is OK as long as you're still selling fizzy drinks?

Creating a winning team by no means requires the best possible driver in the second car - that's a total fallacy. Just ask Jean Todt or even Ron Dennis.

RB are using F1 as a marketing tool, just as Mercedes are and Ferrari and all the others. But that doesn't mean they accept second place.

Horner may be many, many (very unsavoury) things, but one thing he definitely is is a very, very bad loser.

As a team, RBR is not very likeable but let's not be jaded into thinking they're not serious about this game.
Of course the team cares very much. But they exist because Red Bull wanted to leverage F1 as a marketing tool for their brand. From that perspective I can imagine it's entirely suitable to have one very popular driver winning WDC's and a second that doesn't get in the way and also happens to be popular across much of the Spanish speaking world.

From the teams perspective, they probably don't mind either - having one crap driver saves them a fortune in costs and opens up extra development time each season as they continue to target future WDC titles - the only title they or Red Bull GMBH care about.

vaud

52,762 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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They can solve the LATAM/Spanish market issue by hiring Colapinto.

TheDeuce

25,734 posts

75 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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vaud said:
They can solve the LATAM/Spanish market issue by hiring Colapinto.
I was only explaining the reasons why Perez makes some sense, in more of a commercial than sporting sense.

Colapinto has already impressed and if he continues to do so wherever he ends up (hopefully) next year, he could well end up in a RBR/RB. But I should stress that while I believe having a Spanish speaking driver is a strong plus point, especially for RBR, it's not a pre-requisite.

The choice of driver for them also depends on what sort of driver they need at the time. Right now we're talking about a Perez replacement, but soon/very soon it could be a Max replacement that they're after..

MrBig

3,254 posts

138 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Lawson looking pretty handy in these last 2 races. Beating Perez from the lesser car bodes well for next year. I wonder if a drive in the proper RB for 2025 is on the cards, it would certainly be good to see what he can do in it!

Supersam83

867 posts

154 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Reports are going around that Daniel Riccardo has signed for Cadillac/GM for 2026.

8Ace

2,791 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Supersam83 said:
Reports are going around that Daniel Riccardo has signed for Cadillac/GM for 2026.

Likes Fast Cars

2,898 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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8Ace said:
Supersam83 said:
Reports are going around that Daniel Riccardo has signed for Cadillac/GM for 2026.
WTF?! Yesterday’s man. There are other experienced drivers they could have signed, but no, they hired a hack (if this is true).

Muzzer79

11,218 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Likes Fast Cars said:
8Ace said:
Supersam83 said:
Reports are going around that Daniel Riccardo has signed for Cadillac/GM for 2026.
WTF?! Yesterday’s man. There are other experienced drivers they could have signed, but no, they hired a hack (if this is true).
They need someone experienced, someone who can tell them what a good F1 car drives like. Ricciardo can do that.

I expect someone American to be in the team, likely Colton Herta as he's the best they've realistically got, but of the current crop of recent F1 drivers it's really Ricciardo or Bottas who fit the bill. Maybe Kevin Magnussen (who also has links to Cadillac)

Plus, whilst Ricciardo may have signed for them, we don't know in what capacity......

Likes Fast Cars

2,898 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Muzzer79 said:
They need someone experienced, someone who can tell them what a good F1 car drives like. Ricciardo can do that.

I expect someone American to be in the team, likely Colton Herta as he's the best they've realistically got, but of the current crop of recent F1 drivers it's really Ricciardo or Bottas who fit the bill. Maybe Kevin Magnussen (who also has links to Cadillac)

Plus, whilst Ricciardo may have signed for them, we don't know in what capacity......
Danny Ric has had the dick. He’s past it. I hope he won’t be taking up a race seat at the expense of a more exciting and competitive driver.

PRO5T

5,101 posts

34 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Muzzer79 said:
They need someone experienced, someone who can tell them what a good F1 car drives like. Ricciardo can do that.
He couldn't tell you whether to soften or stiffen an anti roll bar, I'm struggling to think of an available driver who'd be worse? Who is out of contract next year?

Forester1965

3,251 posts

12 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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The horse is dead. Stop flogging it!

thegreenhell

17,637 posts

228 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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PRO5T said:
He couldn't tell you whether to soften or stiffen an anti roll bar, I'm struggling to think of an available driver who'd be worse? Who is out of contract next year?
His job is to describe the car's behaviour, not tell them how to fix it. That's the engineers' job.

I hope they do sign him. It will be fun to see the internet explode.

FourWheelDrift

89,780 posts

293 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Cadillac would do better hiring Andretti Racing's IndyCar driver Marcus Ericsson for his F1 knowledge or go with their USA driver Colton Herta (or both). It will give at least one seat up for NXT Champion Louis Foster to take in Indycar.