Daniel Ricciardo

Daniel Ricciardo

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MustangGT

11,748 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.

He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.

If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
I disagree. RBR would never have allowed him to beat Max, so his ambition to win the WDC could not be met at RBR. He therefore had no choice but to leave.

entropy

5,510 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.

He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.

If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
What ever happened to Lewis Hamilton when he left an established race winning team to another team that wasn't?





Fundoreen

4,180 posts

86 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Doesn't chuck norris have some sort of extra long contract with mclaren?
Anyway they have a british driver at mercedes so I guess for marketing reasons they would have someone else with Russell in
the future.
The whole argument seems fulminated in the bowls of mclaren to deflect from thier not so good effort so far.
I remember they blamed Perez in the past to buy another year before they were shown to still be average.
This is more a case that they have let the driver down than the other way round. Just like the Alonso years.

entropy

5,510 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Fundoreen said:
This is more a case that they have let the driver down than the other way round. Just like the Alonso years.
Is McLaren's powerplant fit for F2 or F1?

Muzzer79

10,443 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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entropy said:
Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.

He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.

If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
What ever happened to Lewis Hamilton when he left an established race winning team to another team that wasn't?
That is an example of either fantastic foresight, a premier-league sales pitch by Brawn/Lauda, blind luck or a combination of all three smile

RobGT81

5,229 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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I can't seen anyone wanting to touch Danny Ric after his McLaren stint. He makes good marketing videos I suppose.

vaud

51,185 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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RobGT81 said:
I can't seen anyone wanting to touch Danny Ric after his McLaren stint. He makes good marketing videos I suppose.
He's still quick but I guess Le Mans, etc might be his next destination.

TO73074E

442 posts

30 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Herta is, IIRC, the only American currently entitled to a Super Licence.

O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.

Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.

Sandpit Steve

10,782 posts

77 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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TO73074E said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Herta is, IIRC, the only American currently entitled to a Super Licence.

O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.

Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.
Didn’t know that, thanks. Will add to the names-to-watch list.

jph98

20 posts

132 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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TO73074E said:
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.
I was at Brands for the F4 race in the rain on the Sunday and Ugo was hugely impressive considering his age and relative experience.

I also found myself standing next to Zak in the pitlane when Ugo was receiving his 2x first place trophies (one for first place in the race and one for top rookie in the race!) and Zak looked very pleased and took plenty of pics on his phone.

The group I was with all agreed that for Zak to visit a rainy Brands Hatch a week after the Miami GP (and on the same weekend that McLaren were racing in the US in the Indycar Championship) he must be taking this young drivers future prospects very seriously and will surely find his way to F1 if his talents continue to progress.

cgt2

7,131 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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The fact that contract terms are now openly being discussed by Zak suggest he's very unlikely to be in a McLaren next year. I'm sure there will be performance clauses related to the contract.

I wonder if the tub is wide enough for Nigel Mansell to give his McLaren career a second go...

FourWheelDrift

88,922 posts

287 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Whatifism

What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.

Piginapoke

4,865 posts

188 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Whatifism

What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
It's not DR's pace that's the problem, it's how much he's being paid for that pace.

105.4

4,175 posts

74 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Piginapoke said:
It's not DR's pace that's the problem, it's how much he's being paid for that pace.
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.

Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?


To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick £20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.

I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.

Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55

Red9zero

7,302 posts

60 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Whatifism

What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
Imo, Lando is the real deal and would show up any team mate. Danny Ric is suffering from a loss of form and that is just exaggerating the gap. He needs to lose the smiley persona and get his head down. Again exaggerated as Lando seems to be able to joke around and put in the performances too.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

49 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Reminds me of Nando, out of place and kept moving for money and for a new place, he was just getting Renault on pace and quit, was quicker than Max a lot at red bull left for money. Idiot really, but I think as race fans we underestimate the money aspect, listening to a lot of podcasts in recent years it is a very BIG part of driver moves and usually the MAIN reason

cgt2

7,131 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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105.4 said:
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.

Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?


To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.

I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.

Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55
Probably less now that Zak has said there are escape clauses in the contract, I don't remember even Frank Williams being that blunt publicly. The proverbial writing appears to be on the wall unless he can deliver some stonking results soon.

TheDeuce

22,955 posts

69 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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cgt2 said:
105.4 said:
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.

Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?


To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.

I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.

Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55
Probably less now that Zak has said there are escape clauses in the contract, I don't remember even Frank Williams being that blunt publicly. The proverbial writing appears to be on the wall unless he can deliver some stonking results soon.
I can see him departing McLaren (gutted it's not worked out better than it has tbh), but I also see him getting star signed to another team as opposed to being booted from the sport.

anonymous-user

57 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Stick him in a LMdH with Brendan Hartley and Mark Webber in some antipodean endurance dream team… it would be sad if he did a Kimi and just trundled round at the back to get a big pay check

cgt2

7,131 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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The comparison with Nando is an interesting one but the difference is that Alonso has always outperformed his teammate and equipment when in a car that wasn't the best. He's still doing that today.

Whatever political issues he's had with teams, he has always put in absolute top notch performances behind the wheel. He really should have won more than two titles.