Daniel Ricciardo
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.
He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
I disagree. RBR would never have allowed him to beat Max, so his ambition to win the WDC could not be met at RBR. He therefore had no choice but to leave.He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.
He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
What ever happened to Lewis Hamilton when he left an established race winning team to another team that wasn't?He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
Doesn't chuck norris have some sort of extra long contract with mclaren?
Anyway they have a british driver at mercedes so I guess for marketing reasons they would have someone else with Russell in
the future.
The whole argument seems fulminated in the bowls of mclaren to deflect from thier not so good effort so far.
I remember they blamed Perez in the past to buy another year before they were shown to still be average.
This is more a case that they have let the driver down than the other way round. Just like the Alonso years.
Anyway they have a british driver at mercedes so I guess for marketing reasons they would have someone else with Russell in
the future.
The whole argument seems fulminated in the bowls of mclaren to deflect from thier not so good effort so far.
I remember they blamed Perez in the past to buy another year before they were shown to still be average.
This is more a case that they have let the driver down than the other way round. Just like the Alonso years.
entropy said:
Muzzer79 said:
I agree, assuming he leaves McLaren.
He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
What ever happened to Lewis Hamilton when he left an established race winning team to another team that wasn't?He is a perfect example of why you should never leave a race-winning team. He's had just 2 podiums and a slightly fortuitous win since leaving RBR.
If your car is a winner, keep hold of it.
Sandpit Steve said:
Herta is, IIRC, the only American currently entitled to a Super Licence.
O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.
Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.
Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
TO73074E said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Herta is, IIRC, the only American currently entitled to a Super Licence.
O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.
Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.O’Ward will likely be eligible next season though.
Zak Brown (and the Liberty powers that be) would love an American F1 driver.
TO73074E said:
I know for a fact Zak has an American driver lined up but he won't be in F1 for a few years yet as he is only 14, Ugo Ugochuckwu. He currently races for the Carlin team in the British F4 championship and if you watch BTCC you may have seen him race at Brands Hatch where he won with Zak Brown in attendance. He is an official McLaren junior driver and is taking the same path as Lando Norris. He is currently 3rd in the championship after 3 races.
I was at Brands for the F4 race in the rain on the Sunday and Ugo was hugely impressive considering his age and relative experience. I also found myself standing next to Zak in the pitlane when Ugo was receiving his 2x first place trophies (one for first place in the race and one for top rookie in the race!) and Zak looked very pleased and took plenty of pics on his phone.
The group I was with all agreed that for Zak to visit a rainy Brands Hatch a week after the Miami GP (and on the same weekend that McLaren were racing in the US in the Indycar Championship) he must be taking this young drivers future prospects very seriously and will surely find his way to F1 if his talents continue to progress.
The fact that contract terms are now openly being discussed by Zak suggest he's very unlikely to be in a McLaren next year. I'm sure there will be performance clauses related to the contract.
I wonder if the tub is wide enough for Nigel Mansell to give his McLaren career a second go...
I wonder if the tub is wide enough for Nigel Mansell to give his McLaren career a second go...
FourWheelDrift said:
Whatifism
What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
It's not DR's pace that's the problem, it's how much he's being paid for that pace.What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
Piginapoke said:
It's not DR's pace that's the problem, it's how much he's being paid for that pace.
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?
To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick £20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.
I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.
Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55
FourWheelDrift said:
Whatifism
What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
Imo, Lando is the real deal and would show up any team mate. Danny Ric is suffering from a loss of form and that is just exaggerating the gap. He needs to lose the smiley persona and get his head down. Again exaggerated as Lando seems to be able to joke around and put in the performances too.What if Ricciardo is not underperforming and any driver they bring in as a replacement is at the same level, what if the difference is Lando and he is overperforming, he's stepped up a level.
Reminds me of Nando, out of place and kept moving for money and for a new place, he was just getting Renault on pace and quit, was quicker than Max a lot at red bull left for money. Idiot really, but I think as race fans we underestimate the money aspect, listening to a lot of podcasts in recent years it is a very BIG part of driver moves and usually the MAIN reason
105.4 said:
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.
Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?
To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.
I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.
Probably less now that Zak has said there are escape clauses in the contract, I don't remember even Frank Williams being that blunt publicly. The proverbial writing appears to be on the wall unless he can deliver some stonking results soon.Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?
To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.
I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.
Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55
cgt2 said:
105.4 said:
My apologies. My finger is a little off the pulse in F1 regards.
Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?
To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.
I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.
Probably less now that Zak has said there are escape clauses in the contract, I don't remember even Frank Williams being that blunt publicly. The proverbial writing appears to be on the wall unless he can deliver some stonking results soon.Are driver wages included in the recent budget cap?
What about accident damage / repairs to cars?
To my eye, it’s looking more & more like Ricardo is on the way out. I’d stick 20 on him not being Lando Norris’s team mate next year.
I wonder what odds the Bookies are giving for that bet? Anything above even money would look like good value.
Edited by 105.4 on Saturday 28th May 19:55
The comparison with Nando is an interesting one but the difference is that Alonso has always outperformed his teammate and equipment when in a car that wasn't the best. He's still doing that today.
Whatever political issues he's had with teams, he has always put in absolute top notch performances behind the wheel. He really should have won more than two titles.
Whatever political issues he's had with teams, he has always put in absolute top notch performances behind the wheel. He really should have won more than two titles.
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