Official 2022 Spanish Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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sparta6 said:
Bottas showed us how having the fastest car works.
How many front row lockouts did he share with Ham ?
honda_exige said:
Any photographic evidence of that this year? Would be easy to see if there are any differences given the FIA mandated show and tell sessions.
What does number 2 driver mean in this context? How do you have any non subjective basis to decide if Sainz is better than Perez or visa versa? It's all relative guess work until they're in the same team or can be judged against a constant.
There's more actual evidence to suggest Albon is better than Russell based on their relative performance to Latifi for example.
paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
Bottas showed us how having the fastest car works.
How many front row lockouts did he share with Ham ?
Despite the fact that you repeatedly told us how crap Bottas was to try to devalue Hamilton at every opportunity, even you are probably aware that Valteri is a very quick qualifier.
Bottas @ Mercedes: good at quali
Bottas @ Mercedes: pretty crap at passing others
paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
Bottas showed us how having the fastest car works.
How many front row lockouts did he share with Ham ?
Despite the fact that you repeatedly told us how crap Bottas was to try to devalue Hamilton at every opportunity, even you are probably aware that Valteri is a very quick qualifier.
For the time Merc had the bonefide fastest car bottas was nearly always on the front row. Often enough P1 in fact.
Honestly.
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
sparta6 said:
Bottas showed us how having the fastest car works.
How many front row lockouts did he share with Ham ?
Despite the fact that you repeatedly told us how crap Bottas was to try to devalue Hamilton at every opportunity, even you are probably aware that Valteri is a very quick qualifier.
Nearly spat my tea out reading Sparta there
For the time Merc had the bonefide fastest car bottas was nearly always on the front row. Often enough P1 in fact.
Honestly.
VB is Jarno Trulli 2.0
You should've spat your tea out
Aids0G said:
honda_exige said:
paulguitar said:
honda_exige said:
Should they get multiple 1-2s in Qualy and Race trim like Merc 2014-2020, then can you be relatively confident that one car is a level above.
I'm not sure this is true. Perez is a solid number two driver, but very much a number two driver nonetheless. There are also persistent doubts as to whether or not RB produces two of the same cars at each event.
Any photographic evidence of that this year? Would be easy to see if there are any differences given the FIA mandated show and tell sessions.
What does number 2 driver mean in this context? How do you have any non subjective basis to decide if Sainz is better than Perez or visa versa? It's all relative guess work until they're in the same team or can be judged against a constant.
There's more actual evidence to suggest Albon is better than Russell based on their relative performance to Latifi for example.
Albon in my opinion is one of the standout drivers of the year, dragging performances out of that Williams and all with really not a lot of F1 experience.
Don’t want to look back but it’s a shame he struggled so much with the RB car in 2020. All speculation but if RB had stuck with him I think there is a good chance he would be closer to Max than Perez is this season. Will he go back to RB eventually do we think or is he a decent 2023 DR replacement at McLaren?
RBR were heavily invested in getting the vehicle's dynamics to suit Max's preferred "pointy" style. The inherent instability does not suit some. Although RBR rightly concentrate on Max, Perez is closer this year, Albon would be too IMHO.
Aids0G said:
honda_exige said:
paulguitar said:
honda_exige said:
Should they get multiple 1-2s in Qualy and Race trim like Merc 2014-2020, then can you be relatively confident that one car is a level above.
I'm not sure this is true. Perez is a solid number two driver, but very much a number two driver nonetheless. There are also persistent doubts as to whether or not RB produces two of the same cars at each event.
Any photographic evidence of that this year? Would be easy to see if there are any differences given the FIA mandated show and tell sessions.
What does number 2 driver mean in this context? How do you have any non subjective basis to decide if Sainz is better than Perez or visa versa? It's all relative guess work until they're in the same team or can be judged against a constant.
There's more actual evidence to suggest Albon is better than Russell based on their relative performance to Latifi for example.
Albon.... is he a decent 2023 DR replacement at McLaren?
honda_exige said:
Aids0G said:
honda_exige said:
paulguitar said:
honda_exige said:
Should they get multiple 1-2s in Qualy and Race trim like Merc 2014-2020, then can you be relatively confident that one car is a level above.
I'm not sure this is true. Perez is a solid number two driver, but very much a number two driver nonetheless. There are also persistent doubts as to whether or not RB produces two of the same cars at each event.
Any photographic evidence of that this year? Would be easy to see if there are any differences given the FIA mandated show and tell sessions.
What does number 2 driver mean in this context? How do you have any non subjective basis to decide if Sainz is better than Perez or visa versa? It's all relative guess work until they're in the same team or can be judged against a constant.
There's more actual evidence to suggest Albon is better than Russell based on their relative performance to Latifi for example.
Albon.... is he a decent 2023 DR replacement at McLaren?
I think if DR is out at McLaren they will almost certainly go for Colton Herta as his replacement.
paulguitar said:
Also, anyone tempted to go, don't. The facilities are crap and it's in the middle of nowhere.
It's one of the few circuits where you can get onto the infield and take photos at car level without fencing in the way. If you're into F1 photography at all, Catalunya is one of the best places for it. And you get to stay in Barcelona, which is a wonderful city.HardtopManual said:
paulguitar said:
Also, anyone tempted to go, don't. The facilities are crap and it's in the middle of nowhere.
It's one of the few circuits where you can get onto the infield and take photos at car level without fencing in the way. If you're into F1 photography at all, Catalunya is one of the best places for it. And you get to stay in Barcelona, which is a wonderful city.Aside from that, the circuit is pretty terrible as we all know, and tends to produce some of the worst races of the entire season. The facilities are appalling and apparently at the moment due to some bizarre local laws it's not even possible to buy a beer there. Oh and if you attempt to take in some beer or wine, goons on the gate are employed to steal it from you.
The last time I went there were still no facilities to take card payments, everything had to be cash, and to get cash it was necessary to queue to use an ATM in the back of a van, which took an hour and a half. I think there were two ATM vans for the whole crowd of tens of thousands. That might have changed by now, I hope so!
Regarding the circuit's location...Barcelona is indeed a cool city, but the circuit is a fair way north of the city itself. We were using public transport, so commuting time was an hour and a half in each direction, including a lot of walking, since the train stops a long way from the circuit.
Barcelona is a world hotspot for theft and pickpockets, so if you do go, watch your wallets, and watch your bags.
honda_exige said:
Piginapoke said:
I’d say Gasly
McLaren are all over Herta.
Zak is a marketer - Gasly brings nothing in that respect.
Herta as a famous Yank driver would be unrivalled in that respect. He already is working with McLaren on the simulator ahead of a possible FP1 session later this year.
Albon almost needs to have a solid 3 years at Williams outperforming the car and just see what opens up, Alonso will be out by then Hamilton too should be plenty of opportunities for him. Albon - Russel at Mercedes now that would be a good combo!
Aids0G said:
honda_exige said:
Piginapoke said:
I’d say Gasly
McLaren are all over Herta.
Zak is a marketer - Gasly brings nothing in that respect.
Herta as a famous Yank driver would be unrivalled in that respect. He already is working with McLaren on the simulator ahead of a possible FP1 session later this year.
Yes had forgotten about Herta! then again if Andretti get a slot on the grid might they want to snap up the top US drivers?
Albon almost needs to have a solid 3 years at Williams outperforming the car and just see what opens up, Alonso will be out by then Hamilton too should be plenty of opportunities for him. Albon - Russel at Mercedes now that would be a good combo!
If McLaren have any thoughts of becoming top three they will need someone with a few years experience and proven quality... Gasly for me!!!
If McLaren is now just one big PR billboard machine and have no desire to win, take Herta. The Yanks will love him. If They have any desire to be a racing team then Gasly.
HardtopManual said:
paulguitar said:
Also, anyone tempted to go, don't. The facilities are crap and it's in the middle of nowhere.
It's one of the few circuits where you can get onto the infield and take photos at car level without fencing in the way. If you're into F1 photography at all, Catalunya is one of the best places for it. And you get to stay in Barcelona, which is a wonderful city.Apart from the street harrasment, scam artists, pickpockets and thieves, Barcelona is indeed a wonderful city.
honda_exige said:
Piginapoke said:
I’d say Gasly
McLaren are all over Herta.
Zak is a marketer - Gasly brings nothing in that respect.
Herta as a famous Yank driver would be unrivalled in that respect. He already is working with McLaren on the simulator ahead of a possible FP1 session later this year.
It’s been said for years, that F1 needs a Chinese driver, an American, and a woman, for their own global marketing ambitions.
They got Zhou Guanyu last year, and I’m pretty sure Herta is the only American with enough points for a super licence at the moment. It would be a massive coup to get him into F1, and Zak would love to pinch him from under Andretti’s nose.
Aids0G said:
honda_exige said:
Piginapoke said:
I’d say Gasly
McLaren are all over Herta.
Zak is a marketer - Gasly brings nothing in that respect.
Herta as a famous Yank driver would be unrivalled in that respect. He already is working with McLaren on the simulator ahead of a possible FP1 session later this year.
Yes had forgotten about Herta! then again if Andretti get a slot on the grid might they want to snap up the top US drivers?
Albon almost needs to have a solid 3 years at Williams outperforming the car and just see what opens up, Alonso will be out by then Hamilton too should be plenty of opportunities for him. Albon - Russel at Mercedes now that would be a good combo!
Sandpit Steve said:
Last time I was in Barcelona (the city), I had my camera bag nicked from a busy restaurant. The CCTV ‘wasn’t working’, and no interest from the police in anything other than giving me a form I could send to my insurance company - which meant no camera for months while the paperwork got sorted out.
Apart from the street harrasment, scam artists, pickpockets and thieves, Barcelona is indeed a wonderful city.
With the odd exception Spanish Police are indeed lazy bApart from the street harrasment, scam artists, pickpockets and thieves, Barcelona is indeed a wonderful city.
ds.Barcelona is marginally better than Frankfurt and Paris.
Most EU cities are scuzzy, and don't get me started on Marseille
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