The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*
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ghost83 said:
Pretty s
tty from Mclaren tbh
tty from Mclaren tbh
And they’ve done the same in Indycar, with someone having to make way for Alex Palou next year, and Palou’s existing team insisting he remains under contract with them.
I wonder if the delay in sorting out Ricciardo, was to make sure the Piastri contract was completely watertight? It would be karma if they ended up with only Norris legally signed.
To be honest, I thought better of Zak Brown than to be playing these games with drivers. It’s not the 1990s any more.
Deesee said:
Why oh why did he ever leave Red Bull…
Because he didn't want to be number 2 driver to Verstappen. The only reason Checo is so loved by the team is because he knows when to hold up the other drivers and when to get out of the way and let Max through.Ricciardo was never going to do that, Checo would never bite the hand that feeds him.
Joey Deacon said:
Deesee said:
Why oh why did he ever leave Red Bull…
Because he didn't want to be number 2 driver to Verstappen. The only reason Checo is so loved by the team is because he knows when to hold up the other drivers and when to get out of the way and let Max through.Ricciardo was never going to do that, Checo would never bite the hand that feeds him.
That’s harsh on Checo, he’s been bought in to deliver the WCC, and he’s doing alright with it, even got a contract extension, a Monaco victory..
Perhaps the Newey cars flattered him.
Deesee said:
That’s harsh on Checo, he’s been bought in to deliver the WCC, and he’s doing alright with it, even got a contract extension, a Monaco victory..
But lets be honest, Checo would never be allowed to take victory if there was any way Max could win instead. Look at the Spanish Grand Prix where he was told to let Max through when he was in the lead.As for Monaco, I wonder how it would have gone if Max had managed to get past Sainz?
liner33 said:
Deesee said:
Why oh why did he ever leave Red Bull…
Same reason he is leaving McLaren , not competitive I think he was performing at a higher relative level at RB than he is now. In his last season he finished 6th in the WDC, only 80pts behind Max. Max finished 4th, 160pts behind Hamilton, for context.
By contrast we're halfway through 2022 and he's already almost 60pts behind Lando.
Deesee said:
That’s harsh on Checo, he’s been bought in to deliver the WCC, and he’s doing alright with it, even got a contract extension, a Monaco victory..
Danny has a better win ratio than Perez, which I find quite interesting. Given that Perez has spent a few seasons in a championship-competitive car, you'd have expected more than 3 wins.Potentially does go some way to support the theory that he's a better wingman.
entropy said:
2018 Azerbaijan GP Horner & Marko decided Max Verstappen's arse tasted much better than Danny Ricc's even though Max was as much to blame and arguably more to blame for crashing into each other.
Say max Verstappen never happened and riciardo stayed at red bull-do you think he would have been 2021 world champion?C70R said:
liner33 said:
Deesee said:
Why oh why did he ever leave Red Bull…
Same reason he is leaving McLaren , not competitive I think he was performing at a higher relative level at RB than he is now. In his last season he finished 6th in the WDC, only 80pts behind Max. Max finished 4th, 160pts behind Hamilton, for context.
By contrast we're halfway through 2022 and he's already almost 60pts behind Lando.
Edit to mention that he also finished ahead of Max in 2017 and 2016 (even if you count only the races when they were in the same team). So up until the point in time he decided to leave he had always been ahead of Max.
Edited by thegreenhell on Wednesday 24th August 17:33
rallycross said:
Brutal to announce it before he’s sorted out his next drive.
We have no idea what has been agreed in the background leading to a press release.I have been involved in multi-party press releases and generally there is a lot of review from both parties before release, and it includes a large quote from Daniel so I assume he was happy with it.
And the prospect of being paid some % of his 2023 salary depending if he gets another drive...
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