Masi gone from F1

Masi gone from F1

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cc3

1,005 posts

96 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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Can’t see him getting a job in motor racing

Hungrymc

6,050 posts

117 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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I guess that is all predicated by the assumption that something really dodgy would become public if he were to explain what happened. Kind of diminishes the likelihood of it just being a simple mistake which would be far less damaging to explain. And probably also kills any remaining notion that the authorities think it was all OK.

Or, perhaps they like the publicity and are happy to keep this in the news.

angrymoby

1,938 posts

158 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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paulguitar said:
Do you actually think anyone would be nuts enough to employ him now?
he'll never be an RD again & certainly wont be employed by the FIA again (so that's WEC out- so not sure how much thinking Luke put into his comment)

RD's don't seem to get paid that much either, so i doubt he'll consider it worth the grief in a lesser series (especially with his pay off in his pocket)

he'll pop up as a consultant somewhere ...probably for countries/ companies vying to host future races

911r

241 posts

5 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
You guys are funny, think about it.

Masi is a race director, he could work anywhere, Dorna, WEC, GTWC, America, this is his job, he got to the top level.

If he spills his guts now and tells all about what happened he will never do that job again, I don't know about you, but I would like to continue working in the field I had worked hard to get to the top in? Rather than being branded whatever for telling all to the press who just move on the the next thing the day after.

SO he would have been forced to sign an agreement, to preserve his potential of getting work elsewhere.

I am sure he will spill all when he retires!!
Only a complete muppet would hire him now , he is done !

Out of interest would you hire him now ?

LukeBrown66

2,612 posts

26 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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Of course, unless you think he did any of this stuff completely of his own volition?

He was perfectly adept before this incident. And nobody knows who was driving this decision, if it was him and only him then fair enough, but the sheer fact he has been ,made to sign an NDA ought to suggest there is far more to this than meets the eye.

Muzzer79

6,661 posts

167 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
Of course, unless you think he did any of this stuff completely of his own volition?

He was perfectly adept before this incident. And nobody knows who was driving this decision, if it was him and only him then fair enough, but the sheer fact he has been ,made to sign an NDA ought to suggest there is far more to this than meets the eye.
scratchchin

Debatable.

I do think he'd find work in a similar role though.

People have short memories in motorsport.

mw88

1,176 posts

91 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
You guys are funny, think about it.

Masi is a race director, he could work anywhere, Dorna, WEC, GTWC, America, this is his job, he got to the top level.

If he spills his guts now and tells all about what happened he will never do that job again, I don't know about you, but I would like to continue working in the field I had worked hard to get to the top in? Rather than being branded whatever for telling all to the press who just move on the the next thing the day after.

SO he would have been forced to sign an agreement, to preserve his potential of getting work elsewhere.

I am sure he will spill all when he retires!!
There's no way any half decent race series will take him on unless he's washing the trucks. The response from the fans would probably be enough to make them think twice.

LukeBrown66

2,612 posts

26 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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The fans do not matter diddly squat when it comes a race director.

What matters is that he has done it for a long time, was trusted by the old powers that be to do a good job made a mistake and resigned. We will never know if that mistake was genuine or forced.

A good race director will find work, if not here than perhaps back in Oz or maybe America where they will know no better.

NRS

20,247 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
The fans do not matter diddly squat when it comes a race director.

What matters is that he has done it for a long time, was trusted by the old powers that be to do a good job made a mistake and resigned. We will never know if that mistake was genuine or forced.

A good race director will find work, if not here than perhaps back in Oz or maybe America where they will know no better.
You've a very short memory if you think it was only the last race. He'd been making all sorts of messes earlier in the season. Some people say he was overloaded, but that was his own fault. He'd started making the decisions the stewards should do, increasing his workload a lot. This also meant it was far better for the team principles to call him all the time, as it could actually influence the person making the decisions (stewards are not connected to the teams I believe) and Masi clearly was being influenced by the messages when you look at decisions, meaning the teams HAD to call him or risk losing out. Which was more workload again.

He was a liability long before the last race.

jm doc

2,138 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
The fans do not matter diddly squat when it comes a race director.

What matters is that he has done it for a long time, was trusted by the old powers that be to do a good job made a mistake and resigned. We will never know if that mistake was genuine or forced.

A good race director will find work, if not here than perhaps back in Oz or maybe America where they will know no better.
It wasn't a mistake, he knew the rule.


911r

241 posts

5 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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911r said:
LukeBrown66 said:
You guys are funny, think about it.

Masi is a race director, he could work anywhere, Dorna, WEC, GTWC, America, this is his job, he got to the top level.

If he spills his guts now and tells all about what happened he will never do that job again, I don't know about you, but I would like to continue working in the field I had worked hard to get to the top in? Rather than being branded whatever for telling all to the press who just move on the the next thing the day after.

SO he would have been forced to sign an agreement, to preserve his potential of getting work elsewhere.

I am sure he will spill all when he retires!!
Only a complete muppet would hire him now , he is done !

Out of interest would you hire him now ?
Hey Luke brown you never answered my question

carl_w

7,759 posts

238 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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jm doc said:
It wasn't a mistake, he knew the rule.
As he proved at Eifel 2020



Teddy Lop

6,587 posts

47 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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LukeBrown66 said:
You guys are funny, think about it.

Masi is a race director, he could work anywhere, Dorna, WEC, GTWC, America, this is his job, he got to the top level.

If he spills his guts now and tells all about what happened he will never do that job again, I don't know about you, but I would like to continue working in the field I had worked hard to get to the top in? Rather than being branded whatever for telling all to the press who just move on the the next thing the day after.

SO he would have been forced to sign an agreement, to preserve his potential of getting work elsewhere.

I am sure he will spill all when he retires!!
U wot?

Some outback dirt track watching over beat up Holden Ute's more likes. Probably still gets to enjoy a mad max theme though.

NDAs an interesting one though, did others have a finger in this, or do they want it just not talked about by anyone with any authority?

Hungrymc

6,050 posts

117 months

Wednesday 3rd August
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jm doc said:
LukeBrown66 said:
The fans do not matter diddly squat when it comes a race director.

What matters is that he has done it for a long time, was trusted by the old powers that be to do a good job made a mistake and resigned. We will never know if that mistake was genuine or forced.

A good race director will find work, if not here than perhaps back in Oz or maybe America where they will know no better.
It wasn't a mistake, he knew the rule.
He now carries so much baggage, and will forever have a lack of integrity hanging over his head. It would be a brave (stupid) move for anyone to want to be associated with the clown.

That’s why he signed the NDA and took the money, he was done either way.

LukeBrown66

2,612 posts

26 months

Thursday 4th August
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Maybe, but we will never know, but do not for one minute think this was all his own work!!

pablo

16,662 posts

253 months

Thursday 4th August
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He won’t work in high level motorsport again, and neither should he, and no team would tolerate it. You wouldn’t know whether the race would be decided on the track, in the stewards office or in his head….Can you imagine any team having the confidence in his ability to apply the rules as written irrespective of whether was acting alone or directed to deliver a particular outcome?


KarlMac

3,471 posts

121 months

Thursday 4th August
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Nothing much to add other than I watched Senna last night (Amazon reminded me it’s soon to be removed from the platform), being born in ‘83 I was not familiar with just how much Balastre influenced the outcome of the championship, so some of the wilder theories about people manipulating the sport aren’t just realistic, there’s a precedent for them.

The film also reminded me that over time it’s won’t really matter. No one puts an asterisk next to any of Prost’s titles.

paulguitar

16,686 posts

93 months

Thursday 4th August
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KarlMac said:
The film also reminded me that over time it’s won’t really matter. No one puts an asterisk next to any of Prost’s titles.
There's never been anything to rival Masi's intervention. It will never be forgotten.





LukeBrown66

2,612 posts

26 months

Thursday 4th August
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Anyone basing an opinion about Alain based on the Senna movie is a little daft to be honest.

it is one of the most biased pieces of film about motorsport put together. It was about one man, so obviously showed everything from his perspective and his side.

Balestre was a piece of work admittedly, I don't know whether things were manipulated to suit Prost, but things at McLaren certainly were to suit Senna even just to mess with Alain's head.

It is a fabulous piece of work as a film, but please do not base anything you know of the era, Prost, Balestre or Senna to be changed by a film made by a few Senna fanboys about their demi god.

Or at the very least balance it out by watching the excellent Steve Rider interview with Alain a few years ago on SKY that might at least offer some balance.

And the same goes for Masi, you DO NOT KNOW what really happened and never will, he made mistakes yes, but was this just him or other influences, was he made a scapegoat? He deserved to go for what happened but to hang it ALL on him is grossly unfair as you do not know the truth.

paulguitar

16,686 posts

93 months

Thursday 4th August
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LukeBrown66 said:
And the same goes for Masi, you DO NOT KNOW what really happened and never will, he made mistakes yes, but was this just him or other influences, was he made a scapegoat? He deserved to go for what happened but to hang it ALL on him is grossly unfair as you do not know the truth.
We do not know in full why he did what he did, but we certainly do know what he did.