Official 2023 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Sandpit Steve said:
Petrus1983 said:
My spies at McLaren inform me that ALL paint is coming off and they’ve dispatched the tea boy to Halfords to buy some go faster stripes. My moneys on Lando for the win now.
Toto has already said that the 2022 silver car had 6kg of paint and stickers, but the 2023 black one has 3.2kg. That’s a massive saving, if you can get it past the sponsors. 
Piginapoke said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Petrus1983 said:
My spies at McLaren inform me that ALL paint is coming off and they’ve dispatched the tea boy to Halfords to buy some go faster stripes. My moneys on Lando for the win now.
Toto has already said that the 2022 silver car had 6kg of paint and stickers, but the 2023 black one has 3.2kg. That’s a massive saving, if you can get it past the sponsors. The actuality, I think, is the 2020 and 21 black cars were painted black, rather than left in mostly plain carbon, but the performance was such that they didn’t think about the weight of paint until now.
entropy said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Dunno why he's still villified. Pat Symonds still works in F1, Schumi and Senna still have their 7 and 3 WDCs in the record books...Masi made one of the most colossal f
k ups in the history of sport 15 months ago. One might have thought he'd the common sense not to show up quite yet.Masi has shown that he is either incompetent or corruptible but I'm not sure we can reasonably expect him to disappear from the industry of his career.
He has probably done his time. He and his family will have endured a lot of stress including death threats. He was at the centre of a big mistake. Nobody died.
He has probably done his time. He and his family will have endured a lot of stress including death threats. He was at the centre of a big mistake. Nobody died.
What a colossal pile of ste that 2021 end of season race was. I guess some people didn't want the previous history of F1 to be eclipsed.
I guess MM is there because its Aus init. His local race. Will anybody interview him and ask him any difficult questions?
I doubt it.
But at least the crowd can shout 'you !'
te that 2021 end of season race was. I guess some people didn't want the previous history of F1 to be eclipsed.I guess MM is there because its Aus init. His local race. Will anybody interview him and ask him any difficult questions?
I doubt it.
But at least the crowd can shout 'you
!'HustleRussell said:
Masi has shown that he is either incompetent or corruptible but I'm not sure we can reasonably expect him to disappear from the industry of his career.
If he is anything like a couple of people I know, even with half the world telling him he fked up it won’t register at all and he will carry on oblivious in his own little reality where he is great an infallible.If thinking like this it won’t even register with him that people will be pissed with him being back in the paddock and he will feel he has every right to be there.
RB Will said:
HustleRussell said:
Masi has shown that he is either incompetent or corruptible but I'm not sure we can reasonably expect him to disappear from the industry of his career.
If he is anything like a couple of people I know, even with half the world telling him he fked up it won’t register at all and he will carry on oblivious in his own little reality where he is great an infallible.If thinking like this it won’t even register with him that people will be pissed with him being back in the paddock and he will feel he has every right to be there.
We literally don't know what happened to yield that erroneous result. We never got to scrutinise the machinations. At the time I was all for him keeping his job if a full and transparent process was followed to understand how it happened and ensure it never happened again. To me it is far more suspicious that he was presumably gagged and thrown overboard.
paulguitar said:
Masi made one of the most colossal fk ups in the history of sport 15 months ago. One might have thought he'd the common sense not to show up quite yet.
Yep it was a colossal fk ups in the history of sport 15 months ago. One might have thought he'd the common sense not to show up quite yet.k up for sure letting Hamilton avoid being overtaken by cutting across the circuit. 100% in agreement with that. 
HustleRussell said:
RB Will said:
HustleRussell said:
Masi has shown that he is either incompetent or corruptible but I'm not sure we can reasonably expect him to disappear from the industry of his career.
If he is anything like a couple of people I know, even with half the world telling him he fked up it won’t register at all and he will carry on oblivious in his own little reality where he is great an infallible.If thinking like this it won’t even register with him that people will be pissed with him being back in the paddock and he will feel he has every right to be there.
The other has had his life go to s
t but still will absolutely not acknowledge any part in the cause or continuation of his suffering, could easily sort things out if he would just acknowledge his failingsOf course Masi is welcome back, he did exactly what Liberty Media were craving.
Title changing hands on the very last lap, just like '08.
They could have reversed the decision straight away after Abu Dhabi for over taking under the SC by MV, but that wouldn't be in their interests lol.
Title changing hands on the very last lap, just like '08.
They could have reversed the decision straight away after Abu Dhabi for over taking under the SC by MV, but that wouldn't be in their interests lol.
Andrew Benson BBC Sport said:
Masi, who is in Melbourne in his new role as a senior official of the Australian Supercars series, which is a support race at the grand prix, was seen embracing Red Bull sporting director Jonathan Wheatley in the F1 paddock.
.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65121271
WTF..
Sandpit Steve said:
In the ‘70s cars, the driver’s ankles were the front crash structure! It’s only relatively recently (after Schumacher’s crash at Silverstone?) that the pedal box has been required to be behind the front axle, and the car pass a head-on crash test.
F1 was making strides for driver safety well before most people think. With the cooling radiators up front, the radiator structure and it's mounts provide a not insignificant crushable structure, it was the rest of the tubular chassis that tended to fold up around the driver and trap them in the car. The introduction of monocoque construction improved that issue significantly. You then had the water radiators move to the rear sides of the chassis, on some cars oil coolers took there place up front, but that didn't last long and you ended up with a simple frame up front just to carry the bodywork panel, just strong enough to handle the downforce those panels generated. This was where the foot area became more vulnerable and rule makers started to introduce rules to strengthen the protection at that point. Introduced for 1976
"A substantial structure will extend in front of the pedals."
That didn't mean much and was pretty well ignored, so they mandated a load figure for the following year.
Introduced for 1977
"Structure of protection for the pedals : There wiil be in front of the pedals a structure capable to withstand a 25 g deceleration with out causing the pedals to move backwards by more than 150 mm (car with full tanks and driver aboard).
They achieved this by making a secondary front bulkhead with internal gusset structures between the two bulkheads, which would provide a crush structure and extra strength from the box section geometry.
Introduced for 1980
"All cars must have a substantial structure to protect the driver's feet which is capable of withstanding a compression load of 25w applied to the front of
the car without allowing the pedals to move rearwards more than 15 cm when the car is racing weight (w).
Each year they increased the frontal crash protection, 1981 brought in much higher safety standards with honeycomb crash structures ahead of the drivers feet. One of the better versions of this was on the Tyrrell 011, where Maurice Phillippe added a lot of honeycomb in a nose box and all the way up to the steering bulkhead. That car is built like a tank for a pre carbon car, with honeycomb side panels all the way front to rear and multiple billet aluminium bulkheads. For the last two made they fitted a carbon fibre floor instead of aluminium skins.
1985 was when they started to crash test the frontal impact structures.
1988 was when the pedals couldn't be in front of the front axle line, 11 years before Schumacher broke his leg.
Deesee said:
Andrew Benson BBC Sport said:
Masi, who is in Melbourne in his new role as a senior official of the Australian Supercars series, which is a support race at the grand prix, was seen embracing Red Bull sporting director Jonathan Wheatley in the F1 paddock.
.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65121271
WTF..
TheDeuce said:
audi321 said:
Sorry I’m new to F1, what happened in 2021??
A smug TP, a cyclops and their lovechild no1 driver managed to form a tender relationship with a race director - then the whole universe melted.Allegedly...
PhilAsia said:
TheDeuce said:
audi321 said:
Sorry I’m new to F1, what happened in 2021??
A smug TP, a cyclops and their lovechild no1 driver managed to form a tender relationship with a race director - then the whole universe melted.Allegedly...
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