Official 2024 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

Official 2024 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

Poll: Official 2024 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

Total Members Polled: 127

Verstappen: 42%
Perez: 2%
Leclerc: 13%
Sainz: 7%
Norris: 28%
Piastri: 2%
Hamilton: 6%
Russell: 0%
Alonso: 1%
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Forester1965

2,944 posts

11 months

Monday 20th May
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I miss Turkey. Almost always produces a good race.

vaud

52,514 posts

163 months

Monday 20th May
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Forester1965 said:
I miss Turkey. Almost always produces a good race.
Me too. Great track, great people, and a pretty good destination that also needs tourist $$$

TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Monday 20th May
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732NM said:
isaldiri said:
sadly, not tht it'd ever happen given the relevant circuits aren't going to be able to pay Liberty enough but if covid time races were going to return, I'd really want Portimao to be there before Nurburgring GP tbh.....
Mugello too, without Massi to cock it up this time.
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.

paulguitar

26,866 posts

121 months

Monday 20th May
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TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?



TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Monday 20th May
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paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/drivers-to-rais...

Just being a bit of a nob. Ironic that he stated nothing needed to be changed with the restart procedure, a shame he didn't stick to that when he re-wrote the restart rules on the fly for AD21 biggrin

But anyway, gripes aside Mugello is probably not entirely suitable for F1, but it was also a fun circuit, and beautiful too.

Sandpit Steve

11,418 posts

82 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/drivers-to-rais...

Just being a bit of a nob. Ironic that he stated nothing needed to be changed with the restart procedure, a shame he didn't stick to that when he re-wrote the restart rules on the fly for AD21 biggrin

But anyway, gripes aside Mugello is probably not entirely suitable for F1, but it was also a fun circuit, and beautiful too.
The drivers all got rather upset that they managed to screw up a restart, and if they’d have been watching the F2 race they’d have seen exactly the same scenario play out, just without the massive crash in the middle of the field.

Byker28i

68,351 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st May
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vaud said:
asfault said:
Remember the covid year when the Nurburgring got a race. Old school circuit quite tight and it was a cracking race with overtaking in loads of places. We need to go back there.
Dump Imola and make it the German GP again or even alternating.
Remember the covid year when the Nurburgring got a race.

Remember the covid year when Imola got a race.

... wink
Nurburgring F1 is a great circuit to watch at, lots of overtaking opportunities.

Same as Sepang International Circuit, that always was a good race

Jacobyte

4,746 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/drivers-to-rais...

Just being a bit of a nob. Ironic that he stated nothing needed to be changed with the restart procedure, a shame he didn't stick to that when he re-wrote the restart rules on the fly for AD21 biggrin

But anyway, gripes aside Mugello is probably not entirely suitable for F1, but it was also a fun circuit, and beautiful too.
2021 was a total mess of governance, especially when you add Spa into the mix, where Masi forced them not to race and still dished out the points. Once is a mistake, twice is a coincidence, thrice...?

Back to this race, a great finale after a bit of dullness, great to see a genuine non-orchestrated battle for the lead. smile

HighwayStar

4,485 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Jacobyte said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/drivers-to-rais...

Just being a bit of a nob. Ironic that he stated nothing needed to be changed with the restart procedure, a shame he didn't stick to that when he re-wrote the restart rules on the fly for AD21 biggrin

But anyway, gripes aside Mugello is probably not entirely suitable for F1, but it was also a fun circuit, and beautiful too.
2021 was a total mess of governance, especially when you add Spa into the mix, where Masi forced them not to race and still dished out the points. Once is a mistake, twice is a coincidence, thrice...?

Back to this race, a great finale after a bit of dullness, great to see a genuine non-orchestrated battle for the lead. smile
Indeed… I want to see the winner earning the top step. Soaking up pressure. Obviously that’s not going to happen every race not already knowing who the winner will be raises the anticipation for the race. I’m know fan of Max but if he (or whoever wins), soaking up pressure, actually racing is better than we’ve for the last few years.

TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Jacobyte said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mugello was great!! Apart from Masi.
What did Masi do at Mugello?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/drivers-to-rais...

Just being a bit of a nob. Ironic that he stated nothing needed to be changed with the restart procedure, a shame he didn't stick to that when he re-wrote the restart rules on the fly for AD21 biggrin

But anyway, gripes aside Mugello is probably not entirely suitable for F1, but it was also a fun circuit, and beautiful too.
2021 was a total mess of governance, especially when you add Spa into the mix, where Masi forced them not to race and still dished out the points. Once is a mistake, twice is a coincidence, thrice...?

Back to this race, a great finale after a bit of dullness, great to see a genuine non-orchestrated battle for the lead. smile
Total mess or highly targeted manipulation of the sport in order to deliver a close season and down to the line finale? scratchchin

I guess we'll never know either way, as they've booted the guy that was either highly manipulative or simply totally incompetent. Whichever it is, it's a very poor reflection of the years he spent under Whiting's wing learning the job.

Jacobyte

4,746 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
I guess we'll never know either way
Give it another 20 years; it would certainly make for some excellent reading, very likely to include stuff that we didn't know we didn't know.

davidd

6,531 posts

292 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
Total mess or highly targeted manipulation of the sport in order to deliver a close season and down to the line finale? scratchchin

I guess we'll never know either way, as they've booted the guy that was either highly manipulative or simply totally incompetent. Whichever it is, it's a very poor reflection of the years he spent under Whiting's wing learning the job.
He didn't spend very long with Charlie (just 2018 iirc) and had to fill very large shoes very quickly, perhaps if he'd had another copy of seasons he would have coped better. We were at a dinner with him at spa in 2019, he was generous with his time, and seemed a pretty genuine and sound bloke. I think ultimately the pressure got to him.

PlywoodPascal

5,447 posts

29 months

Tuesday 21st May
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davidd said:
We were at a dinner with him at spa in 2019,
did he ask who you wanted to win?

TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st May
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PlywoodPascal said:
davidd said:
We were at a dinner with him at spa in 2019,
did he ask who you wanted to win?
And who paid the dinner bill? Was it an RBR catering division freebie...? scratchchin

davidd

6,531 posts

292 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
PlywoodPascal said:
davidd said:
We were at a dinner with him at spa in 2019,
did he ask who you wanted to win?
And who paid the dinner bill? Was it an RBR catering division freebie...? scratchchin
There wasn't much race chat or gossip (there never is) and no teams were there. I think the FIA paid, I was quite relived I swerved that one.

TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st May
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davidd said:
TheDeuce said:
PlywoodPascal said:
davidd said:
We were at a dinner with him at spa in 2019,
did he ask who you wanted to win?
And who paid the dinner bill? Was it an RBR catering division freebie...? scratchchin
There wasn't much race chat or gossip (there never is) and no teams were there. I think the FIA paid, I was quite relived I swerved that one.
All in jest - I bet it was an interesting night.

And perhaps you're right, perhaps it was just pressure that got to Masi. I just can't shake the concern that so much that happened that season very conveniently had the effect of keeping the championship battle alive and super close. It really could just be the wrong person for the job syndrome too, I might be reading too much into it..

davidd

6,531 posts

292 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TheDeuce said:
All in jest - I bet it was an interesting night.

And perhaps you're right, perhaps it was just pressure that got to Masi. I just can't shake the concern that so much that happened that season very conveniently had the effect of keeping the championship battle alive and super close. It really could just be the wrong person for the job syndrome too, I might be reading too much into it..
It was, popped up to the hotel to pick up pick up our passes and have a quick beer and ended up having dinner with half of F1 race control.

TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st May
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davidd said:
TheDeuce said:
All in jest - I bet it was an interesting night.

And perhaps you're right, perhaps it was just pressure that got to Masi. I just can't shake the concern that so much that happened that season very conveniently had the effect of keeping the championship battle alive and super close. It really could just be the wrong person for the job syndrome too, I might be reading too much into it..
It was, popped up to the hotel to pick up pick up our passes and have a quick beer and ended up having dinner with half of F1 race control.
Nice!!


TheDeuce

25,330 posts

74 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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As ever...


shtu

3,723 posts

154 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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TheDeuce said:
And perhaps you're right, perhaps it was just pressure that got to Masi. I just can't shake the concern that so much that happened that season very conveniently had the effect of keeping the championship battle alive and super close. It really could just be the wrong person for the job syndrome too, I might be reading too much into it..
To a certain extent, the teams exploited his relative inexperience in F1, and his tendency to come up with a negotiated resolution. It was a feature of the Aussie Supercar series (where a lot of his previous experience lay) that penalties and resolutions could be somewhat flexible.

fwiw, I think he made monumental judgement errors in "that race", largely through not sticking to the rules at probably the most stressful moment of his career, but my word was he unfairly pressured into making them.