Adrian Newey starts work at Aston Martin
Adrian Newey starts work at Aston Martin
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MorrisF1

26 posts

14 months

Thursday 1st May 2025
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vaud said:
I didn't read it as a moan. Lots of teams have had issues with correlation in the ground effect era. A new tunnel will take time to fully calibrate and understand, at a guess.
Aston Martin were, until this year, using Mercedes. This appears to have had poor correlation to the real world (there's a very good Driver61 YouTube video detailing the reasoning behind it, almost entirely above my head) until recently.

This year's upgrades might indicate their chances next year, because if the 2025 upgrades work then it implies a good correlation between Aston Martin's wind tunnel and reality. In turn, that means the designing of the 2026 car should work in both the wind tunnel and reality. If the upgrades all fail and the wind tunnel and/or other testing/design facilities don't map onto the real world very well then the car might not be very good.

Newey's a great designer but something like an inaccurate wind tunnel is a pretty severe handicap.

Doink

1,675 posts

173 months

Friday 2nd May 2025
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You would think that but Redbulls cold war era wind tunnel didn't seem to hold him back in 2010-2013 and 2021-2024, unless of course they were somehow cheating to make up for the deficit with an adjustable bib or brake inertia valve, water in tyres or all three?

Edited by Doink on Friday 2nd May 16:28

hondajack85

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1,342 posts

25 months

Sunday 4th May 2025
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What is it anyway. Just wind and smoke. If you have the brains to understand what the smoke is doing you can design your car.
Cant help thinking everyone bar red bull were buying themselves another few years by saying they need a new wind tunnel.
Newey was not even on the horizon when Aston decided to build themselves a new state of the wallet tunnel.

hondajack85

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1,342 posts

25 months

Saturday 24th May 2025
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Well he has said it himself. There is more to becoming a winning team than one Newey.
AM dont have accurate tools and enough good staff yet. No chance Max will do an Alonso and move to a worse team next year or even maybe after.

Muzzer79

12,801 posts

213 months

Saturday 24th May 2025
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hondajack85 said:
Well he has said it himself. There is more to becoming a winning team than one Newey.
AM dont have accurate tools and enough good staff yet. No chance Max will do an Alonso and move to a worse team next year or even maybe after.
The same could have been said about Ferrari in 1996……

Drivers think long term, especially when they’re only 27 years old

BunkMoreland

4,008 posts

33 months

Saturday 24th May 2025
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Muzzer79 said:
The same could have been said about Ferrari in 1996……

Drivers think long term, especially when they’re only 27 years old
Yes, but Max has always hinted he's not a long termer in F1.

He likes his computer endurance GT games. I could see him move to WEC in due course.

I could actually see him go for the Triple Crown as well!

carinaman

24,689 posts

198 months

Monday 26th May 2025
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hondajack85 said:
Newey was not even on the horizon when Aston decided to build themselves a new state of the wallet tunnel.
Thanks, I needed a laugh.

Supersam83

1,859 posts

171 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Adrian Newey will become Aston Martin team principal in 2026.

Andy Cowell moves to position of Chief Strategy Officer and will work closely with engine supplier Honda.


Supersam83

1,859 posts

171 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Sky Sports said:
Adrian Newey will become Aston Martin's team principal from the 2026 Formula 1 season with Andy Cowell taking on a new role at the outfit.

Newey will combine the job with the managing technical partner role he has held since joining the team from Red Bull earlier this year.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13475798/a...
Seems like Christian Horner will need to look elsewhere for a job...

vaud

58,460 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Supersam83 said:
Seems like Christian Horner will need to look elsewhere for a job...
Not sure he was ever going there. I suspect he will rock up with a bunch of Middle Eastern money for Alpine, but maybe gated on how good the Merc engine is, and getting equity online of salary.

Piginapoke

5,868 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Supersam83 said:
Adrian Newey will become Aston Martin team principal in 2026.

Andy Cowell moves to position of Chief Strategy Officer and will work closely with engine supplier Honda.
Well that appears to be complete madness

TikTak

2,866 posts

45 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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I'm also not totally convinced that's the right answer although he'll initially be a easy figure to get behind.

hondajack85

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1,342 posts

25 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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What I like is that people are still trying to shoehorn Horner into the picture. I guess its the desire to win the internet,just once lol.
TBH Newey seems a pretty tough character who knows what he wants out of an organization.

marine boy

1,193 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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He's going to earn the nickname of 'One Nano Newey' as that's how thinly he'll be spread out with all the roles he's taken on

F1 teams today are too big an organisation for one person to lead both technical and team at the same time

Maybe he took a strategic position on becoming TP, now Horner has no route in to AMF1

Bright Halo

3,891 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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This will end in tears.
Adrian Newey is not and has never been a team leader!
A genius yes, but not a team leader.

vaud

58,460 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Bright Halo said:
This will end in tears.
Adrian Newey is not and has never been a team leader!
A genius yes, but not a team leader.
Depends who he surrounds him self with. Toto is pretty good, but he has a very good team of leaders around him.

stemll

5,324 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Bright Halo said:
This will end in tears.
Adrian Newey is not and has never been a team leader!
A genius yes, but not a team leader.
Not sure it'll be quite that bad but surely this distracts him from what he excels at? Design and being able to "see" the airflow.

Westyn

127 posts

35 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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He is a great designer and engineer, not sure how well he does as a team principal.

jules_s

5,131 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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Westyn said:
He is a great designer and engineer, not sure how well he does as a team principal.
Very few Architects make good Project Managers...

WilsonWilson

812 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th November 2025
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He might as well have gone to Ferrari. At least if it had gone wrong there his legacy would have remained intact "Oh well Mansell, Prost, Alonso, Vettel, Raikkonen, Hamilton etc couldn't make it work either".

If Aston fails, he can't start pointing figures.