The F1 new rule changes Poll
Poll: The F1 new rule changes Poll
Total Members Polled: 427
Discussion
The new rules seem to be more there for casual fans rather than longer term F1 followers.
They reward those who are best at "energy management" rather than those with the best outright driving talents. It's not longer how late can you be on the brakes, or how much feel you have through a corner, but how much you can charge the battery in the optimum places around the lap.
The passing so far has been largely "manufactured" by the overtake button and battery deployment.
The rules have been poorly written such that Mercedes are being punished for finding a loophole around engine compression ratios, despite adhering to the rules, and Ferrari are being punished for producing a car which gets off the start line quickly to satisfy all the other teams which didn't consider this.
To me it just doesn't feel like Formula 1 any more. The race in China was considerably better than the race in Melbourne, but I didn't find either race exciting to watch.
They reward those who are best at "energy management" rather than those with the best outright driving talents. It's not longer how late can you be on the brakes, or how much feel you have through a corner, but how much you can charge the battery in the optimum places around the lap.
The passing so far has been largely "manufactured" by the overtake button and battery deployment.
The rules have been poorly written such that Mercedes are being punished for finding a loophole around engine compression ratios, despite adhering to the rules, and Ferrari are being punished for producing a car which gets off the start line quickly to satisfy all the other teams which didn't consider this.
To me it just doesn't feel like Formula 1 any more. The race in China was considerably better than the race in Melbourne, but I didn't find either race exciting to watch.
So they are a few seconds a lap slower than last year.
Unless I was constantly watching a stopwatch, I wouldn't notice.
I'm all for a bit of slowing down... if it produces exciting racing.
If they can follow & pass each other using Active aero... that's fine.
Just get rid of the other playstation stuff.
( They have Formula E etc for that).
Unless I was constantly watching a stopwatch, I wouldn't notice.
I'm all for a bit of slowing down... if it produces exciting racing.
If they can follow & pass each other using Active aero... that's fine.
Just get rid of the other playstation stuff.
( They have Formula E etc for that).
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 17th March 13:41
The Vambo said:
PhilAsia said:
It's an NBA 356 to 349 scoreline, compared to an amazingly skillful nil-nil draw in football.
A skillful nil-nil draw 
Let me spell it out for you as you seem to have no imagination. 90 minutes of amazingly skillful play that is incredibly engaging to watch. The only negative being that the twenty stunning shots on goal were saved by extraordinary athletic goalkeeping gymnastics.
Ergo, I would rather see one or two failed attempts at overtaking - after a sensational build up through on-the-limit skill - than, watching two cars go though a corner at 60% and a wafty overtake with a speed differential of 20mph every lap.
Just a preference.
vaud said:
Terminator X said:
F1 should never be about "battery management", insanity for any entertainment sport. They ain't saving the planet ffs.
TX.
Agree but is is pretty impressive that they are doing these speeds and this distance with what, 60-70l of fuel?TX.
Milkyway said:
As Damon Hill said, the drivers have got so much to think about each lap.
(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
If they want to be relevant to road cars they should really put all of those buttons and knobs into a touchscreen and make them swipe through several screens to find the brake balance adjuster.(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
thegreenhell said:
Milkyway said:
As Damon Hill said, the drivers have got so much to think about each lap.
(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
If they want to be relevant to road cars they should really put all of those buttons and knobs into a touchscreen and make them swipe through several screens to find the brake balance adjuster.(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
Milkyway said:
thegreenhell said:
Milkyway said:
As Damon Hill said, the drivers have got so much to think about each lap.
(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
If they want to be relevant to road cars they should really put all of those buttons and knobs into a touchscreen and make them swipe through several screens to find the brake balance adjuster.(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
Luckily the trend of all functions moving to the screen in road cars also appears to be getting sanity checked at last, my current and new car have physical buttons for everything needed. Actual, tactile, mechanical buttons.
Milkyway said:
thegreenhell said:
Milkyway said:
As Damon Hill said, the drivers have got so much to think about each lap.
(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
If they want to be relevant to road cars they should really put all of those buttons and knobs into a touchscreen and make them swipe through several screens to find the brake balance adjuster.(Me: Yet, we aren't allowed to be distracted whilst driving...no wonder the lap times are slower.)
29, 43, 28
Split is very splity.
I'm another one on the fence. The hybridization was inevitable and some stuff needs to be road relevant, I get that.
The drivers have also evolved, with having so much more capacity behind the wheel to do other things but does that mean that the driving side of it has become too easy, or that because they're driving at less of what is capable that the spare brain power can be used for other things. Probably.
That said, when the quali laps aren't flat out balls to the wall, I'm not sure that's what we're here for. Everything here is supposed to be the best, or on the limit. Obviously there needs to be some rules and sculpting as funny as "do what you want" sounds but it does seem that the current set of rules are a bit off, and think most would agree if they could be tweaked so the clipping isn't so apparent that would be a step in the right direction.
On being road relevant, questions also remain on degrading tyres which isn't a thing anywhere else and the use of the V6 as manufacturers go towards 4 cylinders and performance vehicles maintain V8s, should a step back up (especially with synth fuel) be considered?
Split is very splity.
I'm another one on the fence. The hybridization was inevitable and some stuff needs to be road relevant, I get that.
The drivers have also evolved, with having so much more capacity behind the wheel to do other things but does that mean that the driving side of it has become too easy, or that because they're driving at less of what is capable that the spare brain power can be used for other things. Probably.
That said, when the quali laps aren't flat out balls to the wall, I'm not sure that's what we're here for. Everything here is supposed to be the best, or on the limit. Obviously there needs to be some rules and sculpting as funny as "do what you want" sounds but it does seem that the current set of rules are a bit off, and think most would agree if they could be tweaked so the clipping isn't so apparent that would be a step in the right direction.
On being road relevant, questions also remain on degrading tyres which isn't a thing anywhere else and the use of the V6 as manufacturers go towards 4 cylinders and performance vehicles maintain V8s, should a step back up (especially with synth fuel) be considered?
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