Anyone doing the Historic GP in Monaco this weekend?
Discussion
bergclimber34 said:
Some great driving, but also some very rich men who no idea how to drive, causing untold damage to cars lovingly restored by very skilled people.
It for me is one to avoid for that reason
If you were offered a drive, I am pretty sure you would say "yes", no matter the outcome of your drive (not saying you would bin it btw)...It for me is one to avoid for that reason
bergclimber34 said:
Some great driving, but also some very rich men who no idea how to drive, causing untold damage to cars lovingly restored by very skilled people.
It for me is one to avoid for that reason
On the flip side I've seen some great driving. At the end of the day if these cars never raced (and sometimes crashed) those skilled people wouldn't have a job. It for me is one to avoid for that reason
I for one cannot wait for 2028 and hoping my father will be healthy enough to join me.
A great day yesterday.
RE the drivers - Nobody buys an old GP car without a bit of an interest in motor racing. Rich or not they are petrol-heads through and through, and while perhaps not the top 1% of drivers, most will have a lot of experience on track and would probably out-drive the average PH'er. But remember, without people pouring huge amounts of money into these cars, they would just be confined to some collection to gather dust, or even worse end up as forgotten scrap. It is great to see them being used as intended, and from our vantage point (above the ACM between the pitlane exit and turn 1) it certainly didn't feel like many drivers were holding back.
Great to see British drivers doing so well too, 7 of 8 wins and of 17 of 24 podiums.
RE the drivers - Nobody buys an old GP car without a bit of an interest in motor racing. Rich or not they are petrol-heads through and through, and while perhaps not the top 1% of drivers, most will have a lot of experience on track and would probably out-drive the average PH'er. But remember, without people pouring huge amounts of money into these cars, they would just be confined to some collection to gather dust, or even worse end up as forgotten scrap. It is great to see them being used as intended, and from our vantage point (above the ACM between the pitlane exit and turn 1) it certainly didn't feel like many drivers were holding back.
Great to see British drivers doing so well too, 7 of 8 wins and of 17 of 24 podiums.
bergclimber34 said:
To be honest, for some of them, they would better off staying in a museum. Some of these guys drive bloody well, but some are probably damaging tge cars by not driving them properly you can hear it too at times, but it's their money.
I often agree with you but not this time.As others have said it's far better to have these cars driven and used than sittin in museums. Personally I detest car shows and museums as I want to hear and smell the car come alive. It's also big business in the UK and Europe employing a lot of people preparing and running the cars. The staff ages vary greatly from the likes of Ewen Sergisons little team who employ youngsters to Classic Team Lotus who employ many old hands.
The driving is indeed sometimes pretty iffy by the gentleman drivers but at the end of the day they're living the dream and paying for it. Converseley when you watch Michael Lyons, Nick Padmore and Sam Hancock they're aboslutely on the limit and it's a joy to watch.
Got back this afternoon from another fabulous weekend in the South of France. The atmosphere there and range of F1 cars there never ceases to amaze me in fact walking round the paddock it's hard to take it all in.
The meeting seemed the busiest ever which on the Friday made the Paddock very congested. The stands on saturday and sunday were pretty much full. The only thing for me that let the weekend down was the lack of dicing at the front end which I think this was due to less pro drivers taking part.
The unfortunate chap in the Osella in qualifying on saturday was very lucky to not be two inches shorter having that huge shunt in the tunnel. That cars front end protection is virtually non existant. I was astonished Methuselah racing repaired Alesis crashed Ferrari for saturday. The stand out car for me was the Ligier JS25 Renualt with it's bellowing turbo engine.
This year I was very lucky and was given pit lane access the only circuit over the past 40 years of attending meetings I haven't been in. It certainly didn't dissapoint but with it surrounded by high rise flats and stands it felt slightly claustrophobic.
I'll put a few pics on when I have a bit more time.
The meeting seemed the busiest ever which on the Friday made the Paddock very congested. The stands on saturday and sunday were pretty much full. The only thing for me that let the weekend down was the lack of dicing at the front end which I think this was due to less pro drivers taking part.
The unfortunate chap in the Osella in qualifying on saturday was very lucky to not be two inches shorter having that huge shunt in the tunnel. That cars front end protection is virtually non existant. I was astonished Methuselah racing repaired Alesis crashed Ferrari for saturday. The stand out car for me was the Ligier JS25 Renualt with it's bellowing turbo engine.
This year I was very lucky and was given pit lane access the only circuit over the past 40 years of attending meetings I haven't been in. It certainly didn't dissapoint but with it surrounded by high rise flats and stands it felt slightly claustrophobic.
I'll put a few pics on when I have a bit more time.
A great event.
We walked the track on Thursday and went in the paddock. Friday we sat in the grandstand at the entrance to the swimming pool. The noise of the DFVs echoing off the buildings( or DVF’s as the commentator kept calling them) was sensational.
Saturday we were delayed by the jumper on the train line from Nice. Sat in the Casino Square grandstand. Good to have done that. Wouldn’t do it again though as no bars and no catering.
Sunday we were opposite the swimming pool on the quayside.
Some great races and fantastic to see the cars being used rather than stuck in a museum. Don’t forget that many of them would have been damaged in period so it’s not like they’re not used to it.
The most expensive crash in the the rarest car was down to the ex Ferrari F1 driver not some rich collector with little talent.
Congratulations to Michael Lyon’s for the wins managing to win in cars that never achieved much back in their day.
Have to disagree with a previous poster about the lunchtime parade of ex Ferrari F1 cars. It went on too long and became tedious. 20 minutes would have been long enough. The 2 hour lunch break was obviously planned to allow Lyon’s and Stuart Hall time to have a break from racing.
We’re already planning to go again in 2028.
We walked the track on Thursday and went in the paddock. Friday we sat in the grandstand at the entrance to the swimming pool. The noise of the DFVs echoing off the buildings( or DVF’s as the commentator kept calling them) was sensational.
Saturday we were delayed by the jumper on the train line from Nice. Sat in the Casino Square grandstand. Good to have done that. Wouldn’t do it again though as no bars and no catering.
Sunday we were opposite the swimming pool on the quayside.
Some great races and fantastic to see the cars being used rather than stuck in a museum. Don’t forget that many of them would have been damaged in period so it’s not like they’re not used to it.
The most expensive crash in the the rarest car was down to the ex Ferrari F1 driver not some rich collector with little talent.
Congratulations to Michael Lyon’s for the wins managing to win in cars that never achieved much back in their day.
Have to disagree with a previous poster about the lunchtime parade of ex Ferrari F1 cars. It went on too long and became tedious. 20 minutes would have been long enough. The 2 hour lunch break was obviously planned to allow Lyon’s and Stuart Hall time to have a break from racing.
We’re already planning to go again in 2028.
Those of you who went, are you able to give us the rundown on the basics please?
Do you need a general entry ticket and a grandstand ticket?
Which are the best grandstands to sit in? Is it best to get there on the Thursday?
Is track walk and paddock access open for everyone or special ticket needed for that too?
Etc etc...
Thanks
Do you need a general entry ticket and a grandstand ticket?
Which are the best grandstands to sit in? Is it best to get there on the Thursday?
Is track walk and paddock access open for everyone or special ticket needed for that too?
Etc etc...
Thanks
bergclimber34 said:
Some great driving, but also some very rich men who no idea how to drive, causing untold damage to cars lovingly restored by very skilled people.
It for me is one to avoid for that reason
Watched Jean Alesi properly bin a 1969 Ferrari nose first into the barrier on a straight: in the braking zone after the tunnel...during the Friday practice! The commentator made some lame excuse for the driver that maybe something broke on the front suspension. Well it was certainly broken after. Not exactly a trip down the Halfords for a spare nose cone, front suspension, steering, radiator assembly etc. It for me is one to avoid for that reason
Maybe Jean Alesi meets your driver profile
Monaco Historique is every 2 years, and I recommend this event to all PHers. Just walking the paddock is epic.
CSR Performance said:
Those of you who went, are you able to give us the rundown on the basics please?
Do you need a general entry ticket and a grandstand ticket?
Which are the best grandstands to sit in? Is it best to get there on the Thursday?
Is track walk and paddock access open for everyone or special ticket needed for that too?
Etc etc...
Thanks
Like anything there are different ways to do it and a lot depends on what you want to spend.Do you need a general entry ticket and a grandstand ticket?
Which are the best grandstands to sit in? Is it best to get there on the Thursday?
Is track walk and paddock access open for everyone or special ticket needed for that too?
Etc etc...
Thanks
I just drove along on Sunday, parking at the Saint Antoine multi-storey was 10 EUR for the whole day, and I had a resident invite pass which meant I was limited to a balcony on Blvd Albert 1er (start-finish straight) and couldn't use the grandstands.
Total cost, erm... 10 EUR. For a full day of historic GP racing. Not bad really.
Its like a historic racing or most racing in general you have a vast range of talent, in my experience there're lot fewer genuinely proper drivers in historic racing than in other forms of motorsport, hence my view.
But as I say, it is still great to see stuff working, but at times, I sometimes wish one or two never went on track.
But as I say, it is still great to see stuff working, but at times, I sometimes wish one or two never went on track.
WH16 said:
Like anything there are different ways to do it and a lot depends on what you want to spend.
I just drove along on Sunday, parking at the Saint Antoine multi-storey was 10 EUR for the whole day, and I had a resident invite pass which meant I was limited to a balcony on Blvd Albert 1er (start-finish straight) and couldn't use the grandstands.
Total cost, erm... 10 EUR. For a full day of historic GP racing. Not bad really.
Friday practice is free, including all grandstands. Only pay on Sat/Sun. Paddock access opposite La Rascasse is also cost/pass free.I just drove along on Sunday, parking at the Saint Antoine multi-storey was 10 EUR for the whole day, and I had a resident invite pass which meant I was limited to a balcony on Blvd Albert 1er (start-finish straight) and couldn't use the grandstands.
Total cost, erm... 10 EUR. For a full day of historic GP racing. Not bad really.
HocusPocus said:
WH16 said:
Like anything there are different ways to do it and a lot depends on what you want to spend.
I just drove along on Sunday, parking at the Saint Antoine multi-storey was 10 EUR for the whole day, and I had a resident invite pass which meant I was limited to a balcony on Blvd Albert 1er (start-finish straight) and couldn't use the grandstands.
Total cost, erm... 10 EUR. For a full day of historic GP racing. Not bad really.
Friday practice is free, including all grandstands. Only pay on Sat/Sun. Paddock access opposite La Rascasse is also cost/pass free.I just drove along on Sunday, parking at the Saint Antoine multi-storey was 10 EUR for the whole day, and I had a resident invite pass which meant I was limited to a balcony on Blvd Albert 1er (start-finish straight) and couldn't use the grandstands.
Total cost, erm... 10 EUR. For a full day of historic GP racing. Not bad really.
So the basics.
We booked the tickets direct with the ACM the day they went on sale in September.
You only need book tickets for the Saturday and Sunday as the Friday practice is free entry.
You get to choose your seat and there is no dynamic pricing.
You only need a Grandstand seat not a general admittance too.
Tickets were €50 for Saturday, €100 for Sunday. Both are pretty full days of racing.
Just about all the grandstands have sight of large TV screens with commentary in French, English and Italian. There is no radio commentary.
Take binoculars though so you can read the timing text on the screen.
Most grandstands have their own catering outlets and loos underneath them. You can even order food and drink to be delivered to your seat via an app. There’s a €5 fee for this but we had to try it just the once.
The grandstand with the longest view of the track IME is the largest one facing the harbour with the pool to your right. This has the pit lane exit and St Devote behind it but the view of that is mostly obscured by trees.
You can leave your grandstand and go out into the town if you want. We did this on Sat and Sunday in search of a lunchtime beer from a proper bar.
We stayed in an Air BnB in Nice.
Access each day was a simple train ride taking 20 minutes to Monaco station which is up behind St Devote. Trains usually run every 15 minutes.
We arrived on the Thursday so we could walk the track including the pit lane. The section from the tunnel exit chicane round to Rascasse was already closed off to traffic so easy to walk on the track.
On the Thursday paddock access was open and free. I’m not sure about paddock access on the other days.
As I said elsewhere the most expensive part of the weekend were the budget flights.
The stands weren’t full on any of the days. Probably 80% capacity at best.
It’s a great event and one worth doing before it gets too popular.
The racing somewhat disproves the myth that it’s the size of the current F1 cars that means they can’t overtake round Monaco. Those from the 1970s didn’t find it easy either.
We booked the tickets direct with the ACM the day they went on sale in September.
You only need book tickets for the Saturday and Sunday as the Friday practice is free entry.
You get to choose your seat and there is no dynamic pricing.
You only need a Grandstand seat not a general admittance too.
Tickets were €50 for Saturday, €100 for Sunday. Both are pretty full days of racing.
Just about all the grandstands have sight of large TV screens with commentary in French, English and Italian. There is no radio commentary.
Take binoculars though so you can read the timing text on the screen.
Most grandstands have their own catering outlets and loos underneath them. You can even order food and drink to be delivered to your seat via an app. There’s a €5 fee for this but we had to try it just the once.
The grandstand with the longest view of the track IME is the largest one facing the harbour with the pool to your right. This has the pit lane exit and St Devote behind it but the view of that is mostly obscured by trees.
You can leave your grandstand and go out into the town if you want. We did this on Sat and Sunday in search of a lunchtime beer from a proper bar.
We stayed in an Air BnB in Nice.
Access each day was a simple train ride taking 20 minutes to Monaco station which is up behind St Devote. Trains usually run every 15 minutes.
We arrived on the Thursday so we could walk the track including the pit lane. The section from the tunnel exit chicane round to Rascasse was already closed off to traffic so easy to walk on the track.
On the Thursday paddock access was open and free. I’m not sure about paddock access on the other days.
As I said elsewhere the most expensive part of the weekend were the budget flights.
The stands weren’t full on any of the days. Probably 80% capacity at best.
It’s a great event and one worth doing before it gets too popular.
The racing somewhat disproves the myth that it’s the size of the current F1 cars that means they can’t overtake round Monaco. Those from the 1970s didn’t find it easy either.
Dazzled said:
So the basics.
We booked the tickets direct with the ACM the day they went on sale in September.
You only need book tickets for the Saturday and Sunday as the Friday practice is free entry.
You get to choose your seat and there is no dynamic pricing.
You only need a Grandstand seat not a general admittance too.
Tickets were 50 for Saturday, 100 for Sunday. Both are pretty full days of racing.
Just about all the grandstands have sight of large TV screens with commentary in French, English and Italian. There is no radio commentary.
Take binoculars though so you can read the timing text on the screen.
Most grandstands have their own catering outlets and loos underneath them. You can even order food and drink to be delivered to your seat via an app. There s a 5 fee for this but we had to try it just the once.
The grandstand with the longest view of the track IME is the largest one facing the harbour with the pool to your right. This has the pit lane exit and St Devote behind it but the view of that is mostly obscured by trees.
You can leave your grandstand and go out into the town if you want. We did this on Sat and Sunday in search of a lunchtime beer from a proper bar.
We stayed in an Air BnB in Nice.
Access each day was a simple train ride taking 20 minutes to Monaco station which is up behind St Devote. Trains usually run every 15 minutes.
We arrived on the Thursday so we could walk the track including the pit lane. The section from the tunnel exit chicane round to Rascasse was already closed off to traffic so easy to walk on the track.
On the Thursday paddock access was open and free. I m not sure about paddock access on the other days.
As I said elsewhere the most expensive part of the weekend were the budget flights.
The stands weren t full on any of the days. Probably 80% capacity at best.
It s a great event and one worth doing before it gets too popular.
The racing somewhat disproves the myth that it s the size of the current F1 cars that means they can t overtake round Monaco. Those from the 1970s didn t find it easy either.
Thanks for this - literally answered all the questions I had in one post! We booked the tickets direct with the ACM the day they went on sale in September.
You only need book tickets for the Saturday and Sunday as the Friday practice is free entry.
You get to choose your seat and there is no dynamic pricing.
You only need a Grandstand seat not a general admittance too.
Tickets were 50 for Saturday, 100 for Sunday. Both are pretty full days of racing.
Just about all the grandstands have sight of large TV screens with commentary in French, English and Italian. There is no radio commentary.
Take binoculars though so you can read the timing text on the screen.
Most grandstands have their own catering outlets and loos underneath them. You can even order food and drink to be delivered to your seat via an app. There s a 5 fee for this but we had to try it just the once.
The grandstand with the longest view of the track IME is the largest one facing the harbour with the pool to your right. This has the pit lane exit and St Devote behind it but the view of that is mostly obscured by trees.
You can leave your grandstand and go out into the town if you want. We did this on Sat and Sunday in search of a lunchtime beer from a proper bar.
We stayed in an Air BnB in Nice.
Access each day was a simple train ride taking 20 minutes to Monaco station which is up behind St Devote. Trains usually run every 15 minutes.
We arrived on the Thursday so we could walk the track including the pit lane. The section from the tunnel exit chicane round to Rascasse was already closed off to traffic so easy to walk on the track.
On the Thursday paddock access was open and free. I m not sure about paddock access on the other days.
As I said elsewhere the most expensive part of the weekend were the budget flights.
The stands weren t full on any of the days. Probably 80% capacity at best.
It s a great event and one worth doing before it gets too popular.
The racing somewhat disproves the myth that it s the size of the current F1 cars that means they can t overtake round Monaco. Those from the 1970s didn t find it easy either.
I know it's a while away but I've seen this package -
https://twynhamstours.co.uk/formula-one-tours/mona...
It seems expensive but exceptional. Will more operators start offering things closer to the time?
https://twynhamstours.co.uk/formula-one-tours/mona...
It seems expensive but exceptional. Will more operators start offering things closer to the time?
Petrus1983 said:
I know it's a while away but I've seen this package -
https://twynhamstours.co.uk/formula-one-tours/mona...
It seems expensive but exceptional. Will more operators start offering things closer to the time?
Not bad value, but like most packages you could probably book it all separately for less. Ermanno Palace is where our old office was, and basically next door to the balcony I was on this year, so expect a similar view to my photo above from the pitlane exit to Saint Devote. https://twynhamstours.co.uk/formula-one-tours/mona...
It seems expensive but exceptional. Will more operators start offering things closer to the time?
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