George throwing his headrest made me cringe. F1 workers view
George throwing his headrest made me cringe. F1 workers view
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Jasandjules

72,127 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th May
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FNG said:
Lots of people just don t like him.
I don't like him either. In fact, if Kimi wins I will be happier than if George wins the WDC.

But that still does not mean it is fair to criticise him for what is a plainly understandable emotional outburst when it goes that badly.

TheDeuce

32,592 posts

92 months

Thursday 28th May
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Jasandjules said:
FNG said:
Lots of people just don t like him.
I don't like him either. In fact, if Kimi wins I will be happier than if George wins the WDC.

But that still does not mean it is fair to criticise him for what is a plainly understandable emotional outburst when it goes that badly.
Indeed. Only the feeblest of minds confuse preference with judgment.

Seems to happen a lot these days though! So much that most people just assume that negative criticism= dislike, positive = like.




Zetec-S

6,743 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th May
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Mastodon2 said:
I'm not surprised the tribalist British F1 fans have been coming in to defend George, if it was a certain Dutch driver I'm sure they have been lining up to criticise such actions.

George's perception of himself as the promised prince of F1 seems to be affecting his mental game. He has spent his F1 career waiting for this moment, to have a dominant car that no other team could compete with, where he could drive to the world championship he has always seemed to be believe is his right. Unfortunately, his young Italian friend seems to have found his pace and Mercedes aren't a one-horse team any longer and George seems to be taking it badly.

It's early in the season though and there's a long way to go. Kimi is due his share of bad luck too and eventually it will come down to who is most consistent over the season, but George has got some way to catch up now.

Regardless of all that though, throwing head restraints etc is unprofessional and no driver should be excused. Then again, George does have form for this sort of thing. Who was it that he hit on the helmet after a crash again, instead of checking his fellow competitor was ok after an off?
Not a fan then? hehe

Tribalism has always been part of F1. If anything, George is probably one of the last drivers on the grid who I'd say gets that level of support.

Blib

47,484 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th May
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"George is an automaton".

Or.

"George is an emotional wrecking ball".

Place your bets!

"Rien ne va plus, les jeux sont faits"?

hehe:

FNG

4,689 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th May
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TheDeuce said:
Jasandjules said:
FNG said:
Lots of people just don t like him.
I don't like him either. In fact, if Kimi wins I will be happier than if George wins the WDC.

But that still does not mean it is fair to criticise him for what is a plainly understandable emotional outburst when it goes that badly.
Indeed. Only the feeblest of minds confuse preference with judgment.

Seems to happen a lot these days though! So much that most people just assume that negative criticism= dislike, positive = like.
Yep good one, I’d infer all that too.

PhilAsia

7,309 posts

101 months

Thursday 28th May
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FNG said:
Lots of people just don t like him.

When he was at Williams it was all go George, good lad George, Mr Sunday yay!

Then he beats St Lewis in his own team and all of a sudden he can t do anything right.

Funny that.
That is your impression.

I am a Lewis fan and thought that George would do well..., and he did!

I was extremely pleased for him, as many were.

Lots of people do like him. Lots of people do not. Not sure of the breakdown - nor when, or if, the alliances changed.

I'm not up on the percentages of each and every driver in F1 history, but there is a consistent rumour throughout the history of F1 that some followers liked and some disliked those driving, and sometimes those allegencies wavered. Bizarre!

EmailAddress

14,633 posts

244 months

Thursday 28th May
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Didn't they tell him to leave the car following electrical protocols.

I.e Leap clear, as they couldn't be sure of the error.

Can't imagine grounding himself with the dog collar is a great idea.

dunc_sx

1,688 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th May
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No issues from me at all, that failure could be what loses him his 1st championship after all. Overall he's very cool under pressure, he's not the quickest on the grid but drives and thinks well under pressure.

Cheers,
Dunc.

TheDeuce

32,592 posts

92 months

Thursday 28th May
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dunc_sx said:
No issues from me at all, that failure could be what loses him his 1st championship after all. Overall he's very cool under pressure, he's not the quickest on the grid but drives and thinks well under pressure.

Cheers,
Dunc.
+1

geeks

11,346 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May
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Plenty of drivers have done this or more in the past, I am surprised it was even mentioned to be honest, I was even more surprised that he had to issue an apology and have a suspended fine!

Adrian W

15,210 posts

254 months

Friday 29th May
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Mastodon2 said:
I'm not surprised the tribalist British F1 fans have been coming in to defend George, if it was a certain Dutch driver I'm sure they have been lining up to criticise such actions.

George's perception of himself as the promised prince of F1 seems to be affecting his mental game. He has spent his F1 career waiting for this moment, to have a dominant car that no other team could compete with, where he could drive to the world championship he has always seemed to be believe is his right. Unfortunately, his young Italian friend seems to have found his pace and Mercedes aren't a one-horse team any longer and George seems to be taking it badly.


It's early in the season though and there's a long way to go. Kimi is due his share of bad luck too and eventually it will come down to who is most consistent over the season, but George has got some way to catch up now.

Regardless of all that though, throwing head restraints etc is unprofessional and no driver should be excused. Then again, George does have form for this sort of thing. Who was it that he hit on the helmet after a crash again, instead of checking his fellow competitor was ok after an off?
A certain Dutch driver would have had the forethought to take out his rival


Adrian W

15,210 posts

254 months

Friday 29th May
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I would be f***ing annoyed in his position, there was no good reason to drive the cars like that, sooner or later one would break, going forward I hope Russell is ruthless and if Antonelli puts his car in the wrong place hit it!

Zetec-S

6,743 posts

119 months

Friday 29th May
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Adrian W said:
I would be f***ing annoyed in his position, there was no good reason to drive the cars like that, sooner or later one would break, going forward I hope Russell is ruthless and if Antonelli puts his car in the wrong place hit it!
confused

What do you mean, no good reason to drive like that? They were racing. Just bad luck that Russell had a PU failure.

CSR Performance

505 posts

14 months

Friday 29th May
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geeks said:
Plenty of drivers have done this or more in the past, I am surprised it was even mentioned to be honest, I was even more surprised that he had to issue an apology and have a suspended fine!
Exactly! It's not like he threw it at a marshal or into the path of oncoming cars and went looking for a fight in the pit lane afterwards!!

Castellet

287 posts

44 months

Friday 29th May
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Adrian W said:
A certain Dutch driver would have had the forethought to take out his rival
Not to mention a certain German driver, and a certain Brazilian driver …… irked

TheDeuce

32,592 posts

92 months

Friday 29th May
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Castellet said:
Not to mention a certain German driver, and a certain Brazilian driver irked
Seb was possibly the finest terrible loser AND terrible winner. Whatever fate (or stupidity) delivered, he was often in some way a bit of a cock end about it.

Quite amusing at times though. Especially listening to him explain things 'from his point of view', which rarely made any sense. Stroppy bugger laugh

Adrian W

15,210 posts

254 months

Friday 29th May
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Zetec-S said:
Adrian W said:
I would be f***ing annoyed in his position, there was no good reason to drive the cars like that, sooner or later one would break, going forward I hope Russell is ruthless and if Antonelli puts his car in the wrong place hit it!
confused

What do you mean, no good reason to drive like that? They were racing. Just bad luck that Russell had a PU failure.
They are supposed to be team mates, as in driving for the same team, I'm just hoping Antonelli has a few DNFs now

TheDeuce

32,592 posts

92 months

Friday 29th May
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Adrian W said:
Zetec-S said:
Adrian W said:
I would be f***ing annoyed in his position, there was no good reason to drive the cars like that, sooner or later one would break, going forward I hope Russell is ruthless and if Antonelli puts his car in the wrong place hit it!
confused

What do you mean, no good reason to drive like that? They were racing. Just bad luck that Russell had a PU failure.
They are supposed to be team mates, as in driving for the same team, I'm just hoping Antonelli has a few DNFs now
Why are you hoping for that? Why a 'few'..? That would take the sport out of the competition and whoever lifts the title would do so not on merit.

Has Kimi done something that makes you think he deserves endless DNF's confused

Zetec-S

6,743 posts

119 months

Friday 29th May
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Adrian W said:
Zetec-S said:
Adrian W said:
I would be f***ing annoyed in his position, there was no good reason to drive the cars like that, sooner or later one would break, going forward I hope Russell is ruthless and if Antonelli puts his car in the wrong place hit it!
confused

What do you mean, no good reason to drive like that? They were racing. Just bad luck that Russell had a PU failure.
They are supposed to be team mates, as in driving for the same team, I'm just hoping Antonelli has a few DNFs now
So what? It was hard but generally fair racing. If we’re going back to a period of Merc dominance then at least we can hopefully still see some competition, even if it’s just between teammates.

Unlike the snooze fest we had with Red Bull having the dominant car and only one driver able (and allowed) to go fast.

PhilAsia

7,309 posts

101 months

Friday 29th May
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I do not recall Seb having a preponderance to exceeding the boundaries of reasonably expected sportsmanlike behavior, as Senna, then Schumi, and ultimately Verstappen would constantly do.

And, amplified in that order.

But, at times, Seb was a complete dick...just not sure he was eager to be as dark-minded!