bloody wheeler dealers !

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slippery

14,090 posts

177 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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bluebear said:
slippery said:
bluebear said:
Wow ! Being new to PH I did not know that. This place is a fountain of knowledge smile
Every day's a school day here mate! thumbup
And everyone is a company director or entrepreneur that's has 6 super cars.smile
You should also be warned that starting your sentences with 'And' will be likely to attract the attention of the grammar cop on here, not to mention your application of 'that's'! hehe

MSTRBKR

6,933 posts

136 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.

Rollcage

11,323 posts

130 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.
Something is also only worth what someone will pay for it at any given time - nobody forces the sellers to let Brewer have their car.

Also, not all the buyers are actors - I think they have been doing much less (if any) of that over the last few series.

slippery

14,090 posts

177 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Rollcage said:
MSTRBKR said:
It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.
Something is also only worth what someone will pay for it at any given time - nobody forces the sellers to let Brewer have their car.

Also, not all the buyers are actors - I think they have been doing much less (if any) of that over the last few series.
That's good to know. If that's the case, I take it when they sell the car, they have to stand behind it, just as any other trader would?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

155 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Rollcage said:
MSTRBKR said:
It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.
Something is also only worth what someone will pay for it at any given time - nobody forces the sellers to let Brewer have their car.

Also, not all the buyers are actors - I think they have been doing much less (if any) of that over the last few series.
I'd hazard a guess that the buying segment is as staged as the selling part, with the owners (when real) agreeing beforehand to go through a scripted routine with "old your and out" Brewer . . . . It’s also some of the tamest bargaining from trade I've seen!

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Rollcage

11,323 posts

130 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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slippery said:
That's good to know. If that's the case, I take it when they sell the car, they have to stand behind it, just as any other trader would?
You would hope so.


I do think some of the cars have had significantly more spent on them than they show - I have certainly seen more parts that appear to have been changed than they will admit to.


I think it's a bit like Top Gear - fine as entertainment, but not too be taken too seriously. Anybody with a bit of common sense can see that.

Having said that, I do find the technical stuff very interesting.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

155 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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slippery said:
Rollcage said:
MSTRBKR said:
It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.
Something is also only worth what someone will pay for it at any given time - nobody forces the sellers to let Brewer have their car.

Also, not all the buyers are actors - I think they have been doing much less (if any) of that over the last few series.
That's good to know. If that's the case, I take it when they sell the car, they have to stand behind it, just as any other trader would?
They've advertised cars on here as a none trade organisation . . . . including using a freebie advert!

slippery

14,090 posts

177 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
slippery said:
Rollcage said:
MSTRBKR said:
It's entertaining but Mike can be pretty sneaky with his low ball offers to people when buying the car, and claims that it's not worth more than X amount. I know that's how it works in real life, but seeing him do it to people on TV and then say he got a bargain doesn't sit well really.
Something is also only worth what someone will pay for it at any given time - nobody forces the sellers to let Brewer have their car.

Also, not all the buyers are actors - I think they have been doing much less (if any) of that over the last few series.
That's good to know. If that's the case, I take it when they sell the car, they have to stand behind it, just as any other trader would?
They've advertised cars on here as a none trade organisation . . . . including using a freebie advert!
Scandalous! hehe
In all seriousness, I suppose it is a bit of a grey area. Are they really traders, or presenters?

snuffle

1,587 posts

120 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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bluebear said:
I very nearly bought a p38 rangerover 2.5 diesel. ANd It's all the tv show wheeler dealers fault. for years now I have watched Mr brewer and ed China buy the cars I want but I'm too scared of the pitfalls and cost to repair when they go wrong. But these to make it look so simple to buy and repair them. And it never seems to costly. How many unfortunate chumps like myself have been, or nearly taken in by these two. "I bought this for 2k and ed has only spent 1k and it only took 3 days to fix. Oh and It's worth 5k now".

Edited by bluebear on Sunday 21st August 10:49
Wheeler dealers is a tv program.
It's made (allegedly) for entertainment purposes.
Therefore it's not real.


Can we stop having threads like this please, or people on mumsnet will start laughing at us.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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bluebear said:
Wow ! Being new to PH I did not know that. This place is a fountain of knowledge smile
Don't believe everything you read on this forum.

I like wheeler dealers. It's good entertainment.
A simple solution for those who don't like it, don't watch it!

If the cars end up on eBay how does that mean the buyers are actors?


Oh one final point, they work out in profit almost every time.

dowahdiddyman

964 posts

149 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Anybody know when the new series starts.

gowmonster

2,431 posts

105 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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edds "assistant's" name is Paul Brackley iirc

the lexus episode was around 2007 iirc so hids may not have been so illegal then...

Sonofabeesting

588 posts

121 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Ed China lives up the road from me.

He has had the Lexus that sold on that show for a long time in his drive (although I have not driven past for a while). Although I respect him much more than Mike Brewer. Look at his past creations you can see that he has some skill

snowdude2910

754 posts

102 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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I love how for someone who seems so good at knocking sellers down on price he just rolls over and gives them away when it comes to selling it "a mint example is worth upwards of £12k so I'll price ours at 8"

jomcvelia

288 posts

104 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Been mentioned that MB is a decent chap in real life....

paulwoof

986 posts

93 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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does anybody remember the episode they done with the mk1 mx5? it was mariner blue and they put white enkies on it? and edd repaired some rust on the windscreen pillar.

couple years on and here it is
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3127573.htm


fair enough its still shiny but absolutely rotten through and i would imagine it has been for some time, if a windscreen piller had rusted through at the time i dont think they would of filmed the arches or sills.

Chicane-UK

3,860 posts

123 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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I do like the show and I don't doubt for a second that Ed China knows his way round these cars pretty well.. as has been said, Brewer's larger than life personality and over enthusiasm does grate a bit some times.

I think the show would be exceptional (from a nerdy, interested in the nuts and bolts point of view) if it stretched to an hour per episode, Brewer turned down the volume a few levels and it went into far mor detail about what Ed was doing on the cars - possibly even doing far more thorough restorations and making a series of 6 episodes about the rebuild of one car perhaps. No chance of that though sadly!

McSam

6,728 posts

113 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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slippery said:
Scandalous! hehe
In all seriousness, I suppose it is a bit of a grey area. Are they really traders, or presenters?
If they sell more than (IIRC) six cars a year, they're traders by default. Their profession doesn't - and can't - matter, otherwise I could keep doing a day job while knocking out a couple of crap cars a week from my house as "private" sales with no comeback!

The Crack Fox

13,250 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Chicane-UK said:
Brewer's larger than life personality and over enthusiasm does grate a bit some times.
Brewer makes the show a turn-off for me.

Fire99

9,469 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Ok MB can be a bit of an over excited puppy at times but there is no doubt to Ed China's knowledge and abilities as a mechanic. I always find his little tips interesting.

Wheeler Dealer is just car selling 'panto' so it will either appeal or it wont. If it was strictly accurate to the letter of the law, it would end up being like 'old' Topgear which was extremely dry..